Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?


Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Old 11-23-2012 | 07:53 PM
  #116101  
ShortBus_Driver's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: School Bus
Default

Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!
Old 11-23-2012 | 07:56 PM
  #116102  
Moderator
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,263
Likes: 105
From: DAL 330
Default

Originally Posted by buzzpat
Flew from MIA to LAX today and landed precisely in our "arrival window." Our scheduled gate was 67. As I was braking and exiting the high speed, we got a gate change ACARS message to a gate that was occupied by a Frontier jet. Our gate, 67, was empty at the time. We called the ramp and asked why our gate had been changed to one that was occupied from one that was currently empty. The answer: there's an inbound Alaska flight which will now get our original gate. OK, how about another gate since Frontier isn't scheduled to push for 30 minutes? No, a Great Lakes Brasilia, inbound, gets the other empty one.

So, a 737-800 packed to the gills and on time has to wait for an inbound Alaska flight and a Great Lakes Brasilia that aren't even here yet.

Glad we can be so accommodating to other airlines pax. Our Delta pax weren't so happy burning on the taxiway for 40 minutes. I'm sure marketing has an answer but it sure doesn't seem like we're doing right by OUR passengers.

Hey Buzz,

Sounds like LAX standard. Have a good weekend.

Scoop
Old 11-23-2012 | 07:58 PM
  #116103  
buzzpat's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,070
Likes: 1
From: Urban chicken rancher.
Default

Originally Posted by Scoop
Hey Buzz,

Sounds like LAX standard. Have a good weekend.

Scoop
You too Scoop! Flew with one of our really good guys!
Old 11-23-2012 | 07:58 PM
  #116104  
forgot to bid's Avatar
veut gagner à la loterie
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 23,286
Likes: 0
From: Light Chop
Default

Originally Posted by Elvis90
Would this be worth an FCR write-up to report a stupid decision as viewed from the front line? Maybe someone higher up will exercise some common sense and fix this for future crews.
FCR? From Buzz? It might have some meaning from Buzz since he can schmooze with the girls on FNC.

But as a Captain once told me- you're an FO, nobody cares what your FCR says.

probably true.
Old 11-23-2012 | 08:01 PM
  #116105  
Moderator
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,263
Likes: 105
From: DAL 330
Default

Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver
Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!
Yes. As far as size goes this is just a guess:

ATL
DTW
NYC
MSP
SLC

The rest are probably all about the same with lots of talk about CVG being the next to get the axe.

Scoop
Old 11-23-2012 | 08:02 PM
  #116106  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,226
Likes: 0
From: AN124 FE
Default

Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver
Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!
Guessing...
ATL
DTW
NYC
MSP
SLC
SEA
LAX
CVG
Old 11-23-2012 | 08:12 PM
  #116107  
ShortBus_Driver's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: School Bus
Default

Thanks guys for the above domicile info!


Also......

Originally Posted by Elvis90
If we shrink another 4-5% in the next 4 years that should cover those losses.

What about the new rest requirements taking affect? Won't that require Delta to staff more pilots like at most other airlines?
Old 11-23-2012 | 08:12 PM
  #116108  
buzzpat's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,070
Likes: 1
From: Urban chicken rancher.
Default

Originally Posted by forgot to bid
FCR? From Buzz? It might have some meaning from Buzz since he can schmooze with the girls on FNC.

But as a Captain once told me- you're an FO, nobody cares what your FCR says.

probably true.
I always put a little "oomph" in my FCRs. They may not care...but they read them.
Old 11-23-2012 | 08:22 PM
  #116109  
80ktsClamp's Avatar
Da Hudge
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
Default

Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver
Thanks guys for the above domicile info!


Also......




What about the new rest requirements taking affect? Won't that require Delta to staff more pilots like at most other airlines?
Our contract is already as or more restrictive than the new rest rules for the most part... I'm hearing 300 or so pilots?
Old 11-23-2012 | 08:38 PM
  #116110  
forgot to bid's Avatar
veut gagner à la loterie
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 23,286
Likes: 0
From: Light Chop
Default

Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver
Are the following pilot domicles all still correct as listed here on the ALPC website?

ATL
CVG
DTW
LAX
MSP
NYC
SEA
SLC

Would someone please rank these domiciles in order of size?

Thanks!
I know you're trying to do some research so let me give you a bit of a feel for what seniority buys here.

Let's say you're 4% from the bottom or bidding around 96%. What does that buy you? (using current category list and not the projected one off our last system bid)

Well, you'd be a March 2008 hire for one.

You would hold:
  • SLC A320 B and be around 90%
  • NYC M88 B and be around 38%
  • NYC 7ER B and be around 87%
  • NYC 737 B and be around 90%
  • NYC A320 B and be around 53%
  • MSP M88 B and be around 78%
  • MSP 320 B and be around 93%
  • DTW DC9 B and be around 50%
  • DTW 7ER B and be around 99.6%
  • DTW 320 B and be around 84%
  • CVG M88 B and be around 85%
  • CVG 737 B and be around 97%
  • ATL M88 B and be around 90%
  • ATL DC9 B and be around 29%
  • ATL 737 B and be around 99%



You wouldn't hold the following categories right now:
  • Any Captain (A) position
  • SLC 7ER FO (B)
  • SLC 73N B, almost, but a few numbers back.
  • SEA 7ER B
  • SEA A330 B
  • NYC 767-400 B (referred to here as the 765)
  • MSP 7ER B
  • LAX 7ER B
  • LAX 737 B
  • DTW 777 B
  • DTW 747 B
  • DTW 330 B
  • ATL 7ER B
  • ATL 777 B
  • ATL 767-400 B
  • ATL 767 DOMESTIC B
  • ATL 330 B
  • ATL 320 B


I think I got it all.

We have about 11,805 pilots and 1,100 are out due to sick leave, furlough or military leave. And to answer your question,
  • ATL: 777, 330, 764, 767/7ER, 737, 320, M88 and DC9.
  • CVG: 737, M88
  • DTW: 777, 747, 7ER, 330, 320, DC9
  • LAX: 7ER, 737
  • MSP: 7ER, 320, M88
  • NYC: 764, 7ER, 320, 737 and M88
  • SEA: 7ER and 330
  • SLC: 330, 320, 737

Keep in mind though, things will be a lot different when hiring resumes and retirements kick in. There are people learning to fly right now that'll be within a few % points on the list from pilots already flying here. I can point to a 2001 and 2007 hire where that's the case and there's only a 1% difference between them. But look at other parts of the list and excluding differences with the merger, 1% doesn't elicit that much of a difference in timing.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22617
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices