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Old 07-24-2012 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SFWB
Delta lad, 4 short calls before today (#5). Flown everyday I've been at work. I merely question the need for 6 guys on short call. Are we covering for NY or SLC? I like sleeping in my bed and having the opportunity to beat my kids.
6 SCs isn't enough...we can look forward to that increasing by 17% soon enough.
Old 07-24-2012 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Well I had a plane with a seat with my name on it ready to deadhead home. I spent twenty minutes on the phone with scheduling and reroute. They both had managers on the phone talking to each other and said I had to fly into my day off. Everybody on the phone knew about the golden day. They also knew I had a nice cozy seat on a plane. I was not stuck, the weather was great. The company just needed the best , and only, pilot available!
Horsepilot, It's probably your schedule that has my name at the bottom of it once or twice...not stalking you; was just curious why you weren't getting as many SCs as I sat here in ATL. Apparently, you can't sit as many SCs when they're flying your @rse off!
Old 07-24-2012 | 10:19 AM
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ive got to go double check to make sure it doesn't have this already, but as i understand it SC bucket is not tied to ulyour overall bucket. but it needs to be.

Say Hoser for his first 12 days flies all 12 days and has 0 SCs. He's bucket 3 but bucket 1 for SC.

if over the same time span I fly 0 hours but sit 4 SCs, I'm in the higher SC bucket. so if Hoser and I come up on the same 4 days of availabiliy Hoser will be first to be asigned SC. which means he could fly a 4 day per se while I still fly 0.

i think SC buckets should be contingent on your overall bucket.
Old 07-24-2012 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Yes, and you get nothing in return. I am thankful there where a lot of improvements made to the reserve rules/pay over the last year, but I'm still irked by the fact that a reserve pilot is always subject to flying into days off without any compensation.
Don't they have to pay above guarantee and give that pilot a payback day? Not including some of the provisions that allow flying an hour or so into a "day". But if they just take your day, that can't possibly be for free with nothing in return. Otherwise you are saying reserves can get 4 days a month off and only make guarantee. There's no way that's true.
Old 07-24-2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
ive got to go double check to make sure it doesn't have this already, but as i understand it SC bucket is not tied to ulyour overall bucket. but it needs to be.

Say Hoser for his first 12 days flies all 12 days and has 0 SCs. He's bucket 3 but bucket 1 for SC.

if over the same time span I fly 0 hours but sit 4 SCs, I'm in the higher SC bucket so Hoser now is still up next for SC to which he could be assigned another 4 day.

i think SC buckets should be contingent on your overall bucket.
Short answer, it doesn't.

Flying is buckets.

Shortcall is seniority.

I agree, there should be more interplay.
Old 07-24-2012 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by p3flteng
Ok, I just tried to move some money around in my 401k, specifically the DL stock we got from the merger, IE the Delta stock fund. The Fidelity website wont allow me to do anything with this stock, a message comes up saying I must use a company trading site or something similar, Did a quick search of this thread with alot of why you should dump our co stock from the merger, but not much on how to do that. Anyone have the gouge on HOW you do it?
It's restricted stock. It's a one way street going out. You can place a limit order at a specified amount or you can put in a market order. You cannot purchase more. There are no tax consequences. It's held inside your 401(k).

The proceeds can go into the seperate brokerage link account (which requires a seperate set up) or into the mutual fund menu. You cannot purchase DAL stock in the brokerage link, either.

If you have more questions, you can call the folks at Fidelity in the 401(k) department. They will be happy to help. It's not hard to do, it's just you have never done it before.
Old 07-24-2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Short answer, it doesn't.

Flying is buckets.

Shortcall is seniority.

I agree, there should be more interplay.
True, but there are both buckets and seniority for SC and flying.

If you're in a bucket, be it SC or flying, with a senior pilot you, the junior pilot will get the duty be it the SC or the rotation if the senior pilot didn't go out his way and ask for it.

SC bucket #2 starts once a pilot has started his 3rd SC. Not sure when bucket #3 starts (guessing #6, which would apply once we start doing 7 SCs). Not that it matters much these days...you're pretty much going to get the SC until the scheduler decides they might run the risk of running short of SC pilots at some point. Which doesn't make us that much different from SW reserve pilots when you think about it...you'll hear the counter about SW pay sometimes with, "Well, when they're on reserve they're on SC if they're not flying." That's about how it is here lately....we'll see if it keeps going this way after summer. Part of me suspects they may keep coming with the SCs even when not truly needed. Case in point, at the end of the month in June a lot of pilots were getting SC with 1 day availability if they weren't winchester on SCs already....some even with just 6 hrs of availability.
Old 07-24-2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
6 SCs isn't enough...we can look forward to that increasing by 17% soon enough.
Yes, starting in 17 months, but for the international guys we'll get a 32% reduction in hours spent on SC. For one, I'm happy about that.
Old 07-24-2012 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Horsepilot, It's probably your schedule that has my name at the bottom of it once or twice...not stalking you; was just curious why you weren't getting as many SCs as I sat here in ATL. Apparently, you can't sit as many SCs when they're flying your @rse off!

I kept looking for underboob but apparently Icrew doesn't allow you to post pretty pictures.


I've actually had a couple short calls pulled, turned into rest so they could add a trip 12 hours later.

Sent an email off to the Alpa gurus this morning. At least I'll learn more details of our contract.
Old 07-24-2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
It's restricted stock. It's a one way street going out. You can place a limit order at a specified amount or you can put in a market order. You cannot purchase more. There are no tax consequences. It's held inside your 401(k).

The proceeds can go into the seperate brokerage link account (which requires a seperate set up) or into the mutual fund menu. You cannot purchase DAL stock in the brokerage link, either.

If you have more questions, you can call the folks at Fidelity in the 401(k) department. They will be happy to help. It's not hard to do, it's just you have never done it before.
Thanks Orvil
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