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Old 12-08-2012, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I say we bring back the Martin 4-0-4 and put the regional back in regional.

Thats a mudhen on a low level with a lawn dart in tactical spread. They're about to drop a 500 pounder on a high value iraqi truck. Where are the Hogs when you need 'em.
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Speaking of regional regionals... I thought this needed repeating in here:

I know this isn't a DCI, I mean an airline a part of THE DCI, but here's what a regional jet can do to yo... for you...

this is Coex with 274 ERJ-145s



same airline now combined with ASA:


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Old 12-08-2012, 04:41 AM
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I'm trying to find a route map of all the flying under Skywest and Expressjet, but no luck so far.

so just imagine the above coex/asa map with these:



AND...

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Does it matter? I couldn't care less about the reliability and efficiency of outsourced airframes.
It does matter, because that is often raised as a reason why the EMB isn't at mainline...
I would rather have DAL purchase the new jets at mainline and get the leased ones at DCI.
I'd rather have the 76-seater at mainline, than outsourced.

But I guess you are right, who cares...
Better have it at DCI.

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm trying to find a route map of all the flying under Skywest and Expressjet, but no luck so far.

so just imagine the above coex/asa map with these:



AND...

And for juxtaposition Delta Air Lines mainline route map 1991. Sorry no route lines, but I think it's still clear enough

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
Are there Delta pilots that live in Europe and commute? I was thinking that 5 years down the road that my family wouldn't mind renting an apartment somewhere in Europe, for a year or so, and living there. Is it impossible to commute back to the states if you are in a category that has one or two trips per month?

Do you know any Delta pilots that live (even temporarily) in Europe?
There are several living in Europe. It can certainly be done. You have to get a Long term stay visa which depending on the country could be difficult. There is also the tax issue. You will not be able to claim expatriot status and will owe all US federal income taxes. You might also be taxed in the new country. Do you research carefully and keep in mind the commuting expenses which are not tax deductible. The UK can get very expensive in that regard.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
It does matter, because that is often raised as a reason why the EMB isn't at mainline...
I would rather have DAL purchase the new jets at mainline and get the leased ones at DCI.
I'd rather have the 76-seater at mainline, than outsourced.

But I guess you are right, who cares...
Better have it at DCI.
I think ya'll are on the same page, george. He's just saying, if it's going to be outsourced, he'd rather it not be a superior product the passengers love. I agree, the more complaints about DCI that DAL gets, the better for DAL pilots. It's one reason I felt the 50-for-76 swap in the TA was a sucker's deal, regardless of it slightly reducing overall seats at DCI. It increased the economically viable, passenger-desirable seats at DCI.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
I think ya'll are on the same page, george. He's just saying, if it's going to be outsourced, he'd rather it not be a superior product the passengers love. I agree, the more complaints about DCI that DAL gets, the better for DAL pilots. It's one reason I felt the 50-for-76 swap in the TA was a sucker's deal, regardless of it slightly reducing overall seats at DCI. It increased the economically viable, passenger-desirable seats at DCI.
We are, we just differ on why flying is outsourced.

IMO it's not because the outsourced flying is superior to Delta when it comes to service and reliability, but because it's lower cost.

Columbia said it right:

Originally Posted by Columbia
Bingo-apparently George wants whats best for the regional pax flown by regional pilots.
For my company I want all service to be great and reliable.
If poor service and passenger comfort were any criteria of outsourcing, some of the DCI providers would be history...
Quite frankly, as a Delta pilot I'd want the outsourced flying to be cost ineffective.

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Old 12-08-2012, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
It does matter, because that is often raised as a reason why the EMB isn't at mainline...
I would rather have DAL purchase the new jets at mainline and get the leased ones at DCI.
I'd rather have the 76-seater at mainline, than outsourced.

But I guess you are right, who cares...
Better have it at DCI.

Cheers
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I see your point. Sorry for being snarky. Side effect of my dear first born son bringing the flu home from school.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
I see your point. Sorry for being snarky. Side effect of my dear first born son bringing the flu home from school.
No worries. My daughter started getting up at 3:30 this last week and proceeds to wake up her brother...FUN!

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