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Old 12-29-2012 | 06:47 PM
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In related news, guess who owns the railway primarily moving Bakken and Canadian crude and who benefits greatly from the Keystone pipeline cancellation? Pipelin being cheaper?

Berkshire Hathaway aka Warren Buffet.

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Old 12-29-2012 | 06:51 PM
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The middle one will be good protection for when you kidnapped into car, relieved of your wallet and tossed out without benefit of the car's brakes. The bottom one lured you into the car in the first place.

True story. Not me.

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Old 12-29-2012 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
So, was Ruggles on....

wait for it....

Crack?

Or did some other airline scoop him?

Or...?
My first thought was that he probably has a non-compete clause to prevent him for working for another airline. I imagine though he could go the way of a independent consultant and advise other airlines on a refinery and hedging game plan. I know UAL was looking into the refinery option. Why work for just one when you could pimp yourself to many and maximize your skill set.
Old 12-29-2012 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
In related news, guess who owns the railway primarily moving Bakken and Canadian crude and who benefits greatly from the Keystone pipeline cancellation? Pipelin being cheaper?

Berkshire Hathaway aka Warren Buffet.

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Not surprised.

I'll keep that in mind in case due to a concussion I waste my time and money to go see Matt Damon's latest Promised Land, an anti-fracking movie funded partly by... wait for it... Image Nation Abu Dhabi, owned by UAE, an OPEC nation.

Maybe I can wait for it to come out on tv and until then continue to watch football hosted by Bob Costas who takes the time to inform me we shouldn't be allowed to own guns while he is personally guarded by armed body guards and policeman at the game.

I don't own a gun. But I'm about to buy one out of spite.

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Old 12-29-2012 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Vikz... Saw that article today too, very odd. Hope it isn't a harbinger of bad news on the petroleum front.
Wouldn't it be great if Delta would focus on it's core business, delivering safe, efficient, travel in mainline jets?

This year has been about 3 Billion in planned investments in an oil refinery, several foreign carriers, buying regional carriers, shutting regional carriers down and ordering a bunch of new large RJ's.
Old 12-29-2012 | 09:36 PM
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Ruggles is good. Probably got poached by a bigger non airline fish. He did a lot of good things for us. There are plenty of more like him. Remember this- RA is an Oil Man. He is from Houston. He knows what the H.E. double oil rig he's doing. The Trainer deal works. Its a done deal. Ruggles is on to the next best thing. R.A. is probably 2 moves down the road already.
Old 12-29-2012 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
I'd love to see the 321s if they were growth aircraft or RJ replacements, but not as a 757 replacement. I doubt it's in the cards anyway, if we wanted A321s we could have them tomorrow, don't need Kingfisher to dump theirs.
I was sniffing around the 4th floor the other day and heard this also about the 321...not so much from another airline though.
Old 12-30-2012 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GBU-24
I was sniffing around the 4th floor the other day and heard this also about the 321...not so much from another airline though.
What! Do they have new secretaries up there?
Old 12-30-2012 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Vikz... Saw that article today too, very odd. Hope it isn't a harbinger of bad news on the petroleum front.
The article points out the obvious. The refinery was losing 1 billion dollars a year when shut down. If we make the expected savings of 300 million a year on jet fuel what happens to the loss of the rest of the product.
Old 12-30-2012 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GBU-24
I was sniffing around the 4th floor the other day and heard this also about the 321...not so much from another airline though.
Kingfisher only had about 6 A321's. Why buy used when Airbus is in trouble with sales at the moment. Everyone is waiting on the NEO so they are facing the reality of parking unsold aircraft as they come off the assembly line. They are offering great deals on classic airbuses at the moment. The A321 however is well known as a pig and does not have real transcon range. The A321 NEO does have the range so not sure why we would jump in before it comes out. We could easily extend 757's until that time. Airbus just might however be willing to make a really great short term lease deal on classics that would be cheaper then the major overhuals on the 757's.
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