slowplay

A guy who had 2300 hours of sick time sees no difference. He doesn't pay a DPMA premium and gets paid for 2300 hours if he goes disabled. For every guy with less than 2160 hours (which is the vast majority), DPMA can be a better deal than what he had. More protection, and the company subsidizes the cost.

I was told you guys were capped at 1200 hours by your contract, and there was only small number over that amount. Also, you only accrued 5 hours per month, so you had a max of 60 hours sick per year. At Delta you can average 100 full pay hours per year with no loss of pay, or 240 hours in any single year. If you go over the 240, then DPMA kicks in for up to 12 months per event.

FlyinPiker

I'd doubt it. I'm sure the last thing DAL wants right now is another DCI contract. They'd get one of the current players they are stuck with to do it...or at least use ComAir or XJ with CRJ's (even if the Dash was a better fit for the route...the Mesa Dash 8 experiment out of JFK was a disaster, not that Piedmont would perform the same...that failed for many reasons ).

DCI aircraft are not something we seem to be short of at the moment.

newKnow

Slow,

Up until the crappy bankruptcy contract, we accumulated sick time at a rate of 12 hrs per month. For every month we didn't call in sick, we accumulated 5 hrs in short term sick bank and 7 hrs in the long term sick bank, or vice versa. With the new crappy BK contract, if you had over 1200 hours (I think it was 1200) you were able to keep the hours over 1200, you just couldn't accumulate more.

Because with the pre-bankruptcy k we accumulated sick time at such a rate, there were a lot of guys who had over 2000 hrs in their bank. I don't remember anyone being able to get a payout from their bank, but if that's the case, it's worth a LOT of cash and I'd start looking for a bunch of 747-400 Captains to sart falling down the steps when they come down from the upper deck (Most likely in MNL).

New K Now

buzzpat

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newKnow

South guys,

Can anyone tell me about the SIL program? How often is it offered? What dos it pay? How senior do you have to be to get it? And any other info you can come up with? Also, what the hey does SLI stand for?

New K Now

Dash8widget

SIL is Special Incentive Line, SLI is Seniority List Integration
They pay 55 hours (I think, or is it 50?) and are offered on an as needed basis. I think that they tend to go pretty senior - I'm sure that some others will chime in with more details.

Oh, and they are offered on a bid at a time basis - and they pay the 55 (or is it 50?) hours to not fly for the month.

nwaf16dude

Not a south guy, but from my understanding it's basically the same as our Non Availability Program (remember the one that never gets used). You basically get paid 55 hours with no availability requirement for the month. Stay home, make 6000ish for hanging out with your kids. I did read a while back that you do not have the option to pickup a trip, so it truly is just 55 hours and go away for a month. great time for a vacation.

Boomer

I'd like to take a moment to defend Comair since these posts make it sound like we're awash with Delta's flying and money.

For what it's worth, DCI's "Explosion" was not Comair's "explosion":

March 2001 - 1350 Comair pilots.

September 2009 - 989 Comair pilots.

Comair's pilot group has shrunk by 27% since the strike in 2001.

True, Comair's pilot group grew by 120 pilots a year from 2001 to 2005, but Delta has since spread that flying amongst several new players in an effort to find even cheaper alternatives to Comair/ASA. Delta has sent 45% of Comair's fleet to the desert or "awarded" them to other DCI carriers.

So you have to look past Comair to find the guys flying all those Delta hours.

For example, start by asking yourself which regionals were unknowns in 2001 and today have grown large enough to be buying up other airlines, plus squirrel away enough of Delta's cash to spot US Airways the $300 million they needed to survive Ch11. Or airlines that had enough cash to help Delta to the tune of a half billion in 2005.

In any case, Comair's demise won't bring all those hours back to mainline. Delta has already laundered those hours to the other DCI carriers and apparently the Comair pilots are left holding the bag.

tomgoodman

I got a couple of those in 2002. Seems like a good way to handle temporary overstaffing in a category -- the recipient gets a month of "practice retirement" and some junior pilot gets a regular line that he wouldn't otherwise have obtained. When we had a DB pension, some guys wouldn't bid an SIL because it could affect their Final Average Earnings, but that may no longer be a factor.

acl65pilot

Also on the SIL, you cannot have vacation, a checkride, or go non-current in the bid month to qualify for the SIL.

The pay is 55 hrs and you are given an "line" with no availability. It effect it gives you the month off.