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Old 08-10-2009, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chente View Post
I hear ya ACL. Hope it does but seeing our operation day in day out, it's kind of depressing. I take that back, not necessarily our operation, but the way we are "forced" to operate.....I have to deal with it because it's my job, I dont know how the Passengers can put up with it. NY is a sh#&@*le. Glad to see we have FIVE east coast bases and we are shrinking the west coast

Guess I dont see the big picture but just blows my mind how we can be the "Premier Global Airline" yet have most of our bases on the east coast. I live in NY and cant stand it so I am not biased......at least I dont think
Because 90% of the USA lives east of the Mississippi... I'm just sayin. I love it when I lived in Heber and drove to work in SLC... but it is what it is.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:56 PM
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Because 90% of the USA lives east of the Mississippi....
90% what? Have you invented some way to free base the kool aid?
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:59 PM
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Been on the 73n as FO for a while...always put my bag in the FA closet with no objections. In the winter with very cooooooollllllddddd layovers I take a small duffle bag as well (14L bag for all you former Hornet guys)...I put that on top of my standard 22"er and had one FA make a rude comment. Other than that, hundreds of legs with no trouble.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch View Post
90% what? Have you invented some way to free base the kool aid?

OK... I wagged the number. And don't get me wrong, I love the left coast, but fact is, that there are a LOT more folks east of the MS river than west of it. I have no idea of what the retarded freebasing insult was all about..
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
OK... I wagged the number. And don't get me wrong, I love the left coast, but fact is, that there are a LOT more folks east of the MS river than west of it. I have no idea of what the retarded freebasing insult was all about..
Just playing.

True about a lot of people on the East but Delta's one side view of the coasts is detrimental. Alaska Air owns the West with hardly a competitor. All the other airlines are stepping on each other for the East and the West is uncontested. We should either buy AS or get cracking on some easy pickins.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch View Post
Just playing.

True about a lot of people on the East but Delta's one side view of the coasts is detrimental. Alaska Air owns the West with hardly a competitor. All the other airlines are stepping on each other for the East and the West is uncontested. We should either buy AS or get cracking on some easy pickins.
No doubt... I wish we'd make a run at Frontier. SWA is gonna get a steal, and then throw half of it away. We could use the whole enchilada right away.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch View Post
Just playing.

True about a lot of people on the East but Delta's one side view of the coasts is detrimental. Alaska Air owns the West with hardly a competitor. All the other airlines are stepping on each other for the East and the West is uncontested. We should either buy AS or get cracking on some easy pickins.
Unfortunately NWA had a major league codeshare arrangement with AS to feed your west coast "gateways". That was brought over as part of the deal. What's the incentive to get management to buy or merge with AS when they've frozen AMR and get the feed they need from the NWA deal?

I think the west is one of the most highly competitive places around. LAX isn't dominated by anybody, and the three carriers that have tried have had their butts handed to them (AAA, DAL, and UAL). Same is true for SAN and SNA. UAL has a hub in SFO, but AMR is pretty big there too. LUV owns OAK, BUR, ONT, and LAS. LCC has PHX (and losing money). DAL tried to make a go of PDX and SEA, but both those bases are gone for the southside. Every place you go has competition from somebody. Look at the war for the Frontier carcass in DEN. SLC was the loser there.

You see easy pickins. I see quicksand.
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Here's a link to the best bag to fit in a 737: Strong Bags by Gear Down, Inc

It's half the weight of pretty neat and lasts like Samsonite.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:01 PM
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I think the west is one of the most highly competitive places around. LAX isn't dominated by anybody, and the three carriers that have tried have had their butts handed to them (AAA, DAL, and UAL). Same is true for SAN and SNA. UAL has a hub in SFO, but AMR is pretty big there too. LUV owns OAK, BUR, ONT, and LAS. LCC has PHX (and losing money). DAL tried to make a go of PDX and SEA, but both those bases are gone for the southside. Every place you go has competition from somebody. Look at the war for the Frontier carcass in DEN. SLC was the loser there.
I was thinking more North/South traffic.

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What's the incentive to get management to buy or merge with AS when they've frozen AMR and get the feed they need from the NWA deal?
If we are willing to hand that business to them, then there is no incentive. We also have to be willing to say "oh well" if someone comes in and buys AS. I don't think we could handle that. So either we prepare to buy that fish or it gets gobbled up. If it gets gobbled up then we are way behind the power curve for getting a West Coast feed up and running.

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Originally Posted by capncrunch View Post
I was thinking more North/South traffic.



If we are willing to hand that business to them, then there is no incentive. We also have to be willing to say "oh well" if someone comes in and buys AS. I don't think we could handle that. So either we prepare to buy that fish or it gets gobbled up. If it gets gobbled up then we are way behind the power curve for getting a West Coast feed up and running.
Who is going to do the buying? There's only one real "threat" as I see it, and that's LUV. Nobody else has the cash, and there's a fairly expensive poison pill and costly unwind to the codeshare agreement.
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