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01-29-2013 | 02:51 PM

#121341

Tumbleweed

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Easiest way is to pay $50 to Flightline and have them send you an expense report. It uses the max you can deduct for each meal without having receipts. It's also a flight log etc. I've gotten it since they started and, for $50 its soooooo worth it. They also say if you don't save at least $50 they will give you your money back.

Manually via DBMS, I have no idea. Sorry

Denny

Thank you!

01-29-2013 | 03:46 PM

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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Mostly true. Which is why last Tuesday when I was good for only 3 days I found it odd to be assigned SC. Even more so when 20+ guys who sat 0 SCs were in the 5+ day bucket.

Same thing here but I called. The scheduler and the supervisor were adamant that "the computer" required a 3-day guy on SC even though there were many 4-day+ guys available that had zero credit and zero SCs. I had a triple digit RAW (highest in base) and had done five SC...

This is a great system if we had actual seniority advancement...
Maybe a few years from now I can be the "senior" reserve FO ;-)

Cheers
George

01-29-2013 | 04:02 PM

#121343

forgot to bid

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog

On SC buckets and all, it also depends how you set up your schedule. If you are senior enough to ask for mon-thur on call and Fri-Sun off, you are less likley to be hit with flights OR SC because those are not heavily used, so not only do you get the days off you want being senior, you get the days not usually heavy on SC or flights and BAM 0,0,0 for the month.

Without vacation you don't normally pull Mon-Thu reserve only. You're going to do a 5 day stint to get the 17-18 or so days of reserve in. Unless you do a day on an odd ball week.

From what I see they're assigning about 14-15 SCs per weekday in my category. Heck, 17 of the first 18 guys tomorrow are on SC and the one that isn't has 6 SCs. But, for those who have 0 SCs, they still have 0 SCs tomorrow.

Anyways, we had about 8 Mondays and Tuesdays, that's about 100-110 SCs assigned to about the same 20-40 guys.

I don't see how someone ends up with 0.

I get what you're saying as far as it depends on when you put your days but looking at today's list, I just think the system is flawed. Not saying the guys with 0 SCs are buying pizza for the schedulers, not at all, I'm just saying it's a flawed system.

01-29-2013 | 04:06 PM

#121344

forgot to bid

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by georgetg

?

This week the "computer" only assigned SC to 4 day guys until there weren't enough. 3 day guys never touched.

01-29-2013 | 04:47 PM

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johnso29

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Originally Posted by georgetg

So wait? Now a computer definitely assigns SC? When did this change? Last time I paid a visit to scheduling(about 1 yr ago) the actual person assigned SCs. Now a computer does it? What criteria does it use?

01-29-2013 | 04:55 PM

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scambo1

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Originally Posted by johnso29

The way the world works is something like this: To know the true computer code used for assigning short calls, you need to be one of the programmers. I volunteered since I have a masters in computer simulation and modelling. Once I got there with the programming team, I pretty much just drank beer and hit on chicks. Then the team leader got progressively more POed with me so I said, okay, I'll work. So I wrote in my line of code with a replicator. All it said was "no shortcall for Scambo." Johnso, you need to volunteer for stuff.

01-29-2013 | 05:08 PM

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GunshipGuy

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From: Permanently scarred

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Originally Posted by georgetg

Sorry, but that's just not right...give a guy a 6th SC for the month because he's a 3-day availability pilot when there are 4-day+ pilots in the hopper with ZERO SCs & ZERO raw?! Computer or no computer, that's going a bit far with the seniority rationale. I as much as anyone look forward to greater seniority someday so that I too may enjoy the benefits that accompany that status, but I think that's taking it entirely too far.

01-29-2013 | 05:11 PM

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Scoop

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Originally Posted by georgetg

I really like the reserve system (full disclosure - when I bid reserve I am one of the more senior guys) but I think it could still use some improvements.

Perhaps somehow combining the RAW/Short Call buckets. Obviously it would try to do this first and if unable it could revert to the current system. This way what happened to George above would only happen as a last resort.

As far as the junior guys working all the weekends and flying more, don't you guys think the more junior line-holders work all the weekends and Holidays?

Scoop

01-29-2013 | 05:12 PM

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GunshipGuy

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From: Permanently scarred

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Without vacation you don't normally pull Mon-Thu reserve only. You're going to do a 5 day stint to get the 17-18 or so days of reserve in. Unless you do a day on an odd ball week.

Vacation makes it even harder to set up a good reserve schedule (4 day stints). I guess you could make an argument for breaking up your vacation to make this happen, but then well, it's not truly "vacation" any longer.

Bottom Line: the pro rated table of X days needs some serious tinkering. I'm confident we'll get it in the next contract.

01-29-2013 | 05:16 PM

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buzzpat

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

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Originally Posted by Scoop

As far as the junior guys working all the weekends and flying more, don't you guys think the more junior line-holders work all the weekends and Holidays?

Scoop

Why yes, yes they (I) do.