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Old 03-15-2013 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
I also find some (most?) of Johnson's comments unlike any person of his seniority (assuming he is actually a pilot and not someone hired by Ford/Harrison and Glen Campbell) to routinely come on here with his barrage of now over 11,000 posts, to realign peoples thinking. He just seems really out of the norm compared to all others I talk to with his seniority. Things that make you go hmmm.
That tinfoil is going to get a bit itchy. I know johnso personally, and he's a good guy. He's a regular line pilot like most of us on here.
Old 03-15-2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
Thanks man. Got it to work.
Good deal.

The items were interesting, but all rumor IMHO. I won't believe it until I see it executed and happening.

Regardless, its better than speculation and rumors about fleet closures, base closures, displacements, and projected corporate losses..........
Old 03-15-2013 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
I also find some (most?) of Johnson's comments unlike any person of his seniority (assuming he is actually a pilot and not someone hired by Ford/Harrison and Glen Campbell) to routinely come on here with his barrage of now over 11,000 posts, to realign peoples thinking. He just seems really out of the norm compared to all others I talk to with his seniority. Things that make you go hmmm.
Johsno is a pilot here. I know who he is (I'm guessing he knows who I am also). I wonder about his posts sometimes, but he is definitely a junior line pilot. I will vouch for him on that.
Old 03-15-2013 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
If Delta can continue to execute its business plan... Ckd
including the 717s... ON
barring an economic downturn.... Ckd & Set
or other unanticipated event.. OFF
we could begin the hiring process as early as the last quarter of this year... ARM



I remember saying, along with others, the timing was suspicious in that it came i believe a week or two after the TA was announced. If hiring was going to happen why wasn't it mentioned on day 1?

But I was chastised, of course we are going to hire.
I agree fully. None of the triggers failed. Sailing can say what he wants about mil leave and early-outs, nothing in the macro environment prevented hiring, and the company is smart enough to input mil leave and early outs into the equation. If not, they should be smart enough that they don't know enough about mil leave and early outs, and therefore can't predict hiring. SD knew what he was doing. It's not an egregious act, or evil, just... business.

As for the explanation that the Board doesn't want hiring... that makes perfect sense. It also makes perfect sense for SD not to take the Board for granted when he made the statement.

We all know what happened; let's put on our big-boys pants and recognize an non-binding sales argument when we see one.
Old 03-15-2013 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That tinfoil is going to get a bit itchy. I know johnso personally, and he's a good guy. He's a regular line pilot like most of us on here.
I don't know who he is in person, but on APC he's a clear-thinking guy, and he seems to always let logic and facts trump philosophy. In other words, he may have a slant, but he seems to be willing to be proven wrong when he's wrong. I also don't see him slander and ridicule people.

Golden Rule + flexibility + logic = great in my book.
Old 03-15-2013 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That tinfoil is going to get a bit itchy. I know johnso personally, and he's a good guy. He's a regular line pilot like most of us on here.
I guess we shouldn't judge a guy if he wants to wave pom-poms and dress in a cheerleader skirt. Is he a size 2 or 4, do you think?
Old 03-15-2013 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Considering I find his posts rational and well thought out, that doesn't say a whole lot for a fairly sizable seniority demographic, who 6 years ago could have left and been Captains at Virgin America if they hated Delta or NWA so much. Oh what's that you say? They're making more in the right seat here?

I'm gonna start calling anyone hired between 2000-2008 the "broken promise" generation.
Maybe not VA, but definitely CAL/UAL, SWA, and FDX. Got a buddy at UCAL, 2006 hire going through Capt upgrade on the 737. I would guess our 2006ish hires won't hold that for ten years minimum.
Old 03-15-2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I guess we shouldn't judge a guy if he wants to wave pom-poms and dress in a cheerleader skirt. Is he a size 2 or 4, do you think?
TMI Purple. We don't need to hear about your weekend adventures!
Old 03-15-2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
I would think going to the monthy "ae" process NW had (or similar) would enable them to react quicker/quickly to changing conditions. Something that could be of benefit?
Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company is free to post bids monthly, weekly or even daily under the current contract.
Of course the company is free to do it, but they don't want to. NWA didn't want to do it either. We had to spend negotiating capital to get our APA (Advance Position Award) system. Previously we had an APE (Advance Position Entitlement) system which was the same nonsense we have now. An APA system requires sophisticated planning, but results in much better QOL for pilots.

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Old 03-15-2013 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Considering I find his posts rational and well thought out, that doesn't say a whole lot for a fairly sizable seniority demographic, who 6 years ago could have left and been Captains at Virgin America if they hated Delta or NWA so much. Oh what's that you say? They're making more in the right seat here?

I'm gonna start calling anyone hired between 2000-2008 the "broken promise" generation.
You bet! Or they could have chosen to be a captain for some nice 135 outfit, or Air Afrique. Whiners!

I'm sure your choice of comparisons warm the "hearts" of management and management wannabes.

Carl
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