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Old 03-15-2013 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia


Ha ha....

"The new phone books are here...The new phone books are here!"





Note: nothing personal intended there columbia, I just had visions of that when I read the post. Especially the "breaking" aspect.
Old 03-15-2013 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Too bad our MEC didn't put that disclaimer at the bottom of every piece of propaganda we were fed during the TA discussion. WARNING: Anything we regurgitate to you here is almost word for word what we were told by management to get you to vote YES, but you should realize they'll lie to you if given the chance and you're an idiot if you don't realize that.
This is the heart of the problem because it presupposes that there's a difference between the MEC and management. The evidence shows me that there's almost no difference. Management's sales job was nowhere near as passionate as the MEC's sales job. If Delta pilots are good with that, then we'll see a continuation of this experiment in the new unionism. I just want to be sure that we all know where we stand.

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Old 03-15-2013 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I can't blame management for co-selling the TA.
Co-selling eh? Well played sir.

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Old 03-15-2013 | 06:42 PM
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Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth
Old 03-15-2013 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth over what some guy said or promised


There I added something for you
Old 03-15-2013 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth
My thoughts exactly!
Old 03-15-2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth
Teenage daughters????
Old 03-15-2013 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Sometimes you guys sound like my teenage daughters arguing back n forth
I think they suffer with Advanced Delusionary Schizophrenia with involuntary Narcissistic Rage. Especially the Narcissistic part.
Old 03-15-2013 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Jack,

I'm an optimistic person. Maybe that will change with time. IDK. Sometimes the pessimism on this thread consumes me, & my natural defense is to debate the pessimism with the glass is half full approach. I don't believe that this TA will have the negative effect you think it will. In 2-3 years, we should know which one of us is correct.

Whether you believe it or not, I voted AGAINST the TA. But that is really irrellevant, because 62% of our pilot group disagreed with me and the TA is now our contract. Will complaining about it on this thread change that? No. It's over, & we need to move on.
Johnson, this may surprise you but I also am an optimistic person. I just have to speak up when I feel we are headed the wrong direction...you know that whole CRM thing. Sometimes optimistically going with the flow hoping for the best gets you so far off course you dont have time to recover. But maybe you do.
Old 03-15-2013 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I didn't ask you to call them suckers. I asked if you felt they should have allowed their vote to be swayed by his statement. Let's be honest, SD did not have to mention the possibility of hiring. I never have, nor will defend his statement. He(they) may have been attempting to sway voters. But is this not the typical political games we play? How many times will we let Lucy yank the ball mid kick before we stop attempting the kick? So either we base our vote on the TA alone, or we continue to fall prey to politics. At some point, the blame lies on us too.
I doubt SD was alone in coming up with the "we may hire if we get this voted in". Chances are it was just one prong of a mulitfaceted strategy put together by this guy. Delta Air Lines Newsroom - Press Kit

That said, SD's words may have gained that extra 12% to put the contract over the top. That said, at some point you just have to stop believing anything coming from management. It is what it is.
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