Sorry but that is a one way street.








thats what she said?

 

That's true. Most of the higher ups in the 320 program were given the 737 types. They were very grateful class acts.

 

Yes but we also get to "sell" FA flying to JV's and DCI and get bargaining credits for that as well. Come negotiation time we really should start spreading that one around. Most of them have zero clue how scope works or even what it is in concept. DL pilots keep the airline together singlehandedly. About time they put some oars in the water and start rowing.

 

Sounds like that was a mistake. That needs to be changed for CBA and FAA because you're not in until you're in and you weren't in.

 

That is true, I think there are a great deal of decent guys that would be instructors in each category.
I find it is total BS that this guy is holding this seat OUT of seniority. I checked the Seniority list and he is shown as INS744B...nearly every pilot around him is holding the ER or smaller. A clear abrogation of our seniority system. If I was senior to him and had a bid in for that seat as a PMN guy I would seriously consider filing a grievance.

 

Well, look at the 777A instructors. Most if not all can't hold it either and have been doing it for years. It is what it is. i worked as a 727B instructor for 3+ years, it"s a good deal if you can get it. You get paid what you can hold up to a limit. I was getting L1011B pay back then and went back to the line as a 727A in NYC.

 

There is actually more the calculus than that. Not only do you have to know the airplane, be able to teach, but you have to be willing to live in ATL. With no more positive space, per diem and hotels, the 747 fleet is losing a huge number of DGS instructors, many of which literally wrote the original training program. Replacing all of them means you might have to make compromises.

From the fleet directors perspective, they like junior instructors because it helps out their budget in the "get paid what you can hold" scale. I would hazard a guess to say that there are other fleets that do the same thing, just not as high profile.

They are hiring more instructors, if you know the airplane, apply.

 

I agree. We were getting the mandatory DOT reports to fill out. I submitted a block time change request.

 

I get how it works! It would be nice to be trained by someone that is holding the aircraft and actually flies routinely, so we don't have to be told.."you will learn that on the line" Or having a jeopardy ride from an instructor that can hold the aircraft and seat position. So if the instructor can not hold the position how do they stay current on the aircraft?

 

That maybe true, but that doesn't make it right. First of all I have an issue with any FO, myself included, being an instructor. Just another way the company is taking away money and Capt seats. I get it is cheaper for an AQ FO than a LCA, but that is still, IMHO, a Capt seat that someone should be able to upgrade into, in SENIORITY ORDER. You mean to tell me in all the categories we don't have enough qualified pilots to be instructors, that we have to go outside of the seniority system to get a good instructor? Or is it that it would put an end to the Good ol Boy system?

I believe it should go one step further, Every Instructor should come from our active Seniority List. That has nothing to do with the quality of what we have, cause its good, it has everything to do with us continually giving jobs back and being stagnant.