Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-25-2013 | 08:12 PM
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03-25-2013 | 08:37 PM
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03-26-2013 | 04:04 AM
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EXACTLY. every time I look at the #required report, it is less... less and less and less. In fact, it has ALWAYS stayed about 200-500 numbers LESS than my seniority #! So every single AE, I look and I see that I am EXCESS to what the company NOW needs to run the airline. Always 6 months ago I was hoping to be under the wire at my current seniority... and they always move the bar lower!
Sorry Imapilot, but for those of us who for 12 years have watched the company reduce the # of pilots required, always just less than where we sit, we KNOW that we are just one un-voted side-letter away from being furloughed again... just one 757 retirement away... just one 737 being outsourced again to DCI away...
Yes, it's a big thing. Great on the company for being productive, if my #1 concern in life was the value of return on my Delta stock I'd be saying "sweeet!" But my concern is with my flying career-- I'm locked into a position here at Delta by a totally bogus non-portable seniority system that resets me to college grad status if I try to take my 30 years of flying experience and skills and market myself-- I CAN'T "go somewhere else if you don't like it!". I pay a significant chunk of my salary each month to my bargaining agent to PROTECT my fragile position, NOT to make Delta more productive. Each 5 months another AE comes out showing how my position has degraded, and how I am now even closer to the bottom of the pile and even closer to being furloughed as excess. Bah on that! If I was #1 concerned about stock returns, I'd be prosecuting investor initiatives to limit executive compensation to only 20 times the average worker's salary. Someone out there is seriously doing a better job looking out for executive pay and bonuses than my union is doing looking out for my pay and bonuses, and it's worrisome.
OTOH I had some really superb cask ale and brisket tonight, so I'm not entirely bitter
Cask ale... bitter... you see what I did there?
Sorry Imapilot, but for those of us who for 12 years have watched the company reduce the # of pilots required, always just less than where we sit, we KNOW that we are just one un-voted side-letter away from being furloughed again... just one 757 retirement away... just one 737 being outsourced again to DCI away...
Yes, it's a big thing. Great on the company for being productive, if my #1 concern in life was the value of return on my Delta stock I'd be saying "sweeet!" But my concern is with my flying career-- I'm locked into a position here at Delta by a totally bogus non-portable seniority system that resets me to college grad status if I try to take my 30 years of flying experience and skills and market myself-- I CAN'T "go somewhere else if you don't like it!". I pay a significant chunk of my salary each month to my bargaining agent to PROTECT my fragile position, NOT to make Delta more productive. Each 5 months another AE comes out showing how my position has degraded, and how I am now even closer to the bottom of the pile and even closer to being furloughed as excess. Bah on that! If I was #1 concerned about stock returns, I'd be prosecuting investor initiatives to limit executive compensation to only 20 times the average worker's salary. Someone out there is seriously doing a better job looking out for executive pay and bonuses than my union is doing looking out for my pay and bonuses, and it's worrisome.
OTOH I had some really superb cask ale and brisket tonight, so I'm not entirely bitter
Cask ale... bitter... you see what I did there? I hope things get better for you.
03-26-2013 | 04:33 AM
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Over time there is no way increasing line holder and reserve ALV's will do anything other than require fewer bodies to run the airline. Changing the number of days in the bid periods; yep, fewer bodies.
I heard the statement "Richard Anderson isn't comfortable with how little our pilots fly in the winter". After the MASSIVE concessions that we gave during BK I don't care what RA and management want. I voted NO on the contract not because I think we could of gotten that much more, it's that I know we could of given up less.
03-26-2013 | 07:50 AM
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03-26-2013 | 08:23 AM
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Maybe Imapilot2 sincerely hopes things do get better for everyone. Maybe Imapilot2 has genuinely wished good upon his fellow pilot. Possibly Imapilot2 realizes that when the positive movement starts the 'all about me' types will stop sobbing about how bad things are and forever will be? Perhaps he longs for a day when prosperity floats all the boats and the little girl tears will cease. Imapilot2 may have a dream. A beautiful dream. Dry eyes and clear skies for all. It could happen.
03-26-2013 | 08:26 AM
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What are you doing to improve our position? If it is simply *****ing on an anonymous web board I would guess that it is not going to help much. If you are doing something else I would be interested to know what it is.
03-26-2013 | 08:26 AM
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Why don't you just go back to the Alpa forum with all the constructive conversation that happens there...
03-26-2013 | 08:27 AM
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Purple,
For the record I want changes for the better also but you also must be realistic about the industry we work in and our direct competitors. We don't exist in a vacuum and have not had any help from our peers anywhere. Even swa. What have they negotiated since the ch11 train started rolling? They are just trying to hang on. I don't see any answers from you just complaints. What have YOU done to better our situation? At least Acl65 put his money where his mouth is. I see on the Alpa board the same *****er and moaners that were there at Nwa, and it's probably safe to assume some are on here. Of those the only one that has ever put himself out there is JF in dtw. While not elected he at least tried. So purple, I ask you what have YOU done? Because *****ing on an anonymous webboard ain't cutting it.
For the record I want changes for the better also but you also must be realistic about the industry we work in and our direct competitors. We don't exist in a vacuum and have not had any help from our peers anywhere. Even swa. What have they negotiated since the ch11 train started rolling? They are just trying to hang on. I don't see any answers from you just complaints. What have YOU done to better our situation? At least Acl65 put his money where his mouth is. I see on the Alpa board the same *****er and moaners that were there at Nwa, and it's probably safe to assume some are on here. Of those the only one that has ever put himself out there is JF in dtw. While not elected he at least tried. So purple, I ask you what have YOU done? Because *****ing on an anonymous webboard ain't cutting it.
03-26-2013 | 08:31 AM
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Maybe Imapilot2 sincerely hopes things do get better for everyone. Maybe Imapilot2 has genuinely wished good upon his fellow pilot. Possibly Imapilot2 realizes that when the positive movement starts the 'all about me' types will stop sobbing about how bad things are and forever will be? Perhaps he longs for a day when prosperity floats all the boats and the little girl tears will cease. Imapilot2 may have a dream. A beautiful dream. Dry eyes and clear skies for all. It could happen.
This thread has become quite acidic lately with all the personal attacks. I include myself in that at times, but all in all we are working at one of the better run airlines of today and I know plenty of fellow pilots who would love to have the problems some of our pilots gripe about.
I'm all for raising the bar, but I don't intend on becoming a stubborn, combative cynic in the process.
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