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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
So I raised my hand and asked, "If you staff the airline so that every reserve is already flying 70 hours, every month, just to cover the regular schedule, what are you going to do when the weather gets bad and now you NEED reserves?"
He said, "That's what Green Slips and assignements are for."
So, there you go. I don't see them hiring until every reserve is flying the monthly max and they have trouble finding enough guys willing to answer the phone on their off days.
Hey guys, I've got to be in Prague next week for two days. I've never been there and the schedule will be busy, but where's the best place to eat and/or drink beer?
Carl
Carl
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So I'm on the outside wanting to get in. I, like many others, want to get hired when the hiring resumes. I do understand that the Summer schedule is when the staffing is at it's thinnest. If there are instances now where they are running out of pilots to cover trips what do they do when the flying picks up in the summer?? Try doing more GS? Pull IP's out of the school house, management guys out of the office, cancel trips? I can't understand not wanting to add pilots unless there is a bigger picture they are not saying (more shrinking). I'm not the brightest, but when you bring on a new hire they are essentially the cheapest (hourly) rate that you can cover flying with, right? I would think that would bring the overall hourly cost (average per pilot) down. Am I wrong? Correct me if so. I would think the cost of cancelling flights would far out weigh the cost of bringing on more warm bodies to the front of DAL aircraft.
thanks in advance for shedding the light on this for me
thanks in advance for shedding the light on this for me
Even with the generous peak leveling relief we gave them in the recent contract, I'm just not seeing how things will be covered in many categories, even with lots of green slips. Even before guys go to 717 training (and other categories to be converted in May through August) some of the categories that are being used to "fund" the "electric-9" are bottoming out in March and April.
Also keep in mind that, despite the talk, DL is still a shrinking airline. Even if the 717 changes that WRT DL seniority list block hours, the network shows no signs of leveling off or growing. The shrinkage is minor, but its shrinkage nonetheless. And the 717/growth 737's won't be here til long after summer, and we still have a ton of 320's/757's/DC-9's to start parking as soon as they start getting here.
Flt Ops wanted to hire, but the bean counters said no. Its too late now regardless for the peak summer schedule. To borrow a phrase, we will go to war with the army we have. If the Euro and/or Dollar don't implode before 2014, we will then start the process of ramping up hiring. Hope to see you here though!
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Council: 001
City: Bloomington
Date: April 8, 2013
New Aircraft: Delta is pursuing an order for 8–12 wide-body aircraft for delivery starting in 2015. These will be used for fly from West Coast (SEA/LAX) to Asia (HKG, PVG, PEK) with the ability to over-fly NRT/HND.
Hiring: We anticipate a nominal amount of hiring in 2014; currently estimating 60 per month January–June, then 20 per month
(Also, a preemptive "kiss my arse" to anyone who wants to lecture me on reposting already disseminated information in case this has already been covered.)
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming...
Council: 001
City: Bloomington
Date: April 8, 2013
New Aircraft: Delta is pursuing an order for 8–12 wide-body aircraft for delivery starting in 2015. These will be used for fly from West Coast (SEA/LAX) to Asia (HKG, PVG, PEK) with the ability to over-fly NRT/HND.
Hiring: We anticipate a nominal amount of hiring in 2014; currently estimating 60 per month January–June, then 20 per month
(Also, a preemptive "kiss my arse" to anyone who wants to lecture me on reposting already disseminated information in case this has already been covered.)
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming...
Straight QOL, homie
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I think all the things you mentioned are options they will use if it comes to that. Its too late for this summer now. If it gets too lean they will simply leave block hours/revenue on the table. ...
Even with the generous peak leveling relief we gave them in the recent contract, I'm just not seeing how things will be covered in many categories, even with lots of green slips.!
Even with the generous peak leveling relief we gave them in the recent contract, I'm just not seeing how things will be covered in many categories, even with lots of green slips.!
But I'm confident that the company will "constructively engage" ALPA, and weekend "reserves required" will be increased significantly. After all, "it's good for us," and "we'll get them next time."
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From: DAL FO
Some of the B's are out via the backdoor.
Like it or hate it, the new reserve system has opened up options wayyy down the category lists.
ATLDC9B has 2 guys bidding rsv on page 1. On the other end of the list, #3 from the bottom of the category is a REG pilot - good for him if he's a commuter, or doesn't want to get punished on reserve.
While some argue that the bucket system slants too far in favor of guys "taking a month" off, an unexpected consequence (at least to me) is that guys further down the category are able to hold a line than they have in the past. It's just a different way of distributing the goodies among the group.
That said, junior reserve will SUCK in a short category over the summer, especially if you can't hold weekends off.
Like it or hate it, the new reserve system has opened up options wayyy down the category lists.
ATLDC9B has 2 guys bidding rsv on page 1. On the other end of the list, #3 from the bottom of the category is a REG pilot - good for him if he's a commuter, or doesn't want to get punished on reserve.
While some argue that the bucket system slants too far in favor of guys "taking a month" off, an unexpected consequence (at least to me) is that guys further down the category are able to hold a line than they have in the past. It's just a different way of distributing the goodies among the group.
That said, junior reserve will SUCK in a short category over the summer, especially if you can't hold weekends off.
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