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Old 04-17-2013 | 05:05 PM
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Agree with Carl here; at the moment you rotate, there is a brief discovery process that determines whether the numbers you're using are correct. It doesn't matter then where a mistake was made, it just matters that you're validating the process in a very short period, with your capable hands and your superior judgement.

A rotation is an analog event, not a digital process.
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Agree with Carl here; at the moment you rotate, there is a brief discovery process that determines whether the numbers you're using are correct. It doesn't matter then where a mistake was made, it just matters that you're validating the underlying data, and your correct application of the resulting numbers, in a very short period, with your capable hands and your superior judgement.

A rotation is an analog process, not a digital event.

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Old 04-17-2013 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Agree with Carl here; at the moment you rotate, there is a brief discovery process that determines whether the numbers you're using are correct. It doesn't matter then where a mistake was made, it just matters that you're validating the underlying data, and your correct application of the resulting numbers, in a very short period, with your capable hands and your superior judgement.

A rotation is an analog event, not a digital process.
That's pilot poetry right there boys.
Old 04-17-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Former Cessna 172 pilots do it best.


Former Brasilia pilots find every airplane afterwards to be very simple and safe.
Amen Brother!
Old 04-17-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Flybywine
That's pilot poetry right there boys.
I just don't think it's very appropriate to try to slam your tail skid on the way out, onto something you tried to kiss ever so subtly on the way in. I figure a runway should only be faintly aware of my departure by the void it feels until my next gentle, soft visit.

Love your runway, and your runway will faithfully welcome you back.
Old 04-17-2013 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I just don't think it's very appropriate to try to slam your tail skid on the way out, onto something you tried to kiss ever so subtly on the way in. I figure a runway should only be faintly aware of my departure by the void it feels until my next gentle, soft visit.

Love your runway, and your runway will faithfully welcome you back.

True. Using the logic applied to takeoffs, we should all just chop the power at 50 feet, maintain Vref+5 until impact and apply maximum braking and reverse thrust until a complete stop on a 2 mile long runway. Because someday when its raining in LGA we'll just float all they way down to the end and into the drink.
Old 04-17-2013 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Why, that's because the training department is infallible. The instructors have extensive recency of experience on the line, and the distributed training is both informative and completely comprehensive. Now, back to highlighting the entire F.O.M.
That right there is funny, true but still funny!
Otoh ...some of those guys are pretty knowledgeable, just wish they were seniority list instructors.
Old 04-17-2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
True. Using the logic applied to takeoffs, we should all just chop the power at 50 feet, maintain Vref+5 until impact and apply maximum braking and reverse thrust until a complete stop on a 2 mile long runway. Because someday when its raining in LGA we'll just float all they way down to the end and into the drink.
That's not secret sinkr8 pilot poetry society material but it's just as beautiful. +1
Old 04-17-2013 | 06:26 PM
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Amen Brother!
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Old 04-17-2013 | 06:34 PM
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For you 747 fans, a behind the scenes look at a BA 744 overhaul

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