Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-23-2013, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I don't think you're going to be able to change the bucket system as a precondition to a change in the Cap, because I think you're in a small minority WRT buckets. Nonetheless, I agree with you that the Cap issue would improve many things, and probably negate your concerns on the bucket system.
Anyways big no on that for me on that, but if we want to go back to the way it was then fine- caps have to come back too. That's what I mean. And I agree, caps would be awesome.
04-23-2013, 05:00 AM
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Stock price at 8:59 is $15.14.... Does it go up or down? Apple can show the worlds largest ever profit and their stock price drops, amazon shows a loss and theirs increases...
04-23-2013, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue24
Well understand that this was the will of the 30-40 pilots in the room. A friend of mine went there and said the Reps kept out of speaking "for" or "against" a resolution except one comment on the 7ER category one. In fact, the most junior Rep kept his mouth totally shut on the RAW Bucket resolution which surprised my buddy. It was the ATL pilots meeting and this is what they brought forth. Don't like it, make sure you write your reps detailing why. You may even want to offer suggestions, but not going to the meeting and complaining on here do nothing.
04-23-2013, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Stock price at 8:59 is $15.14.... Does it go up or down? Apple can show the worlds largest ever profit and their stock price drops, amazon shows a loss and theirs increases...
04-23-2013, 05:36 AM
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Thread creep in honor of Toomers and FTB:
04-23-2013, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
What you have now is a lot of senior guys bidding reserve and a lot of junior guys holding lines in a category where they'd otherwise be deep reserve. If you take away the seniority on reserve then many will lose that line holding ability.
As for discussing it here and not having attended the meeting, I believe it is still worthwhile. Sharing of reserve experience before and after the changes were implemented is informative for some. But you do have to speak or email your reps if you want them to know what your thoughts are on the subject. One was on the LEC during the last term and has no excuses for not being aware of the discord from a great number of pilots who were displeased with the reserve changes regarding buckets. Additionally, they've had plenty of time to see that flying 5 days does not get you into bucket 2 (as was pitched by the SOT and cited by the SOT and LEC when I complained)--what company are you working for? How could you ever think that 5 days of flying gets you into bucket 2? Maybe internationally, I dunno, but there has never ever been a pilot who got 81 for a raw score after 5 days of domestic flying. Even 5 days of 5 legs wouldn't do it.
04-23-2013, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Im not prposing to get rid of the buckets At this point, but it was that resolution to C44 to go back to seniority only system. And in the interim increase the size of the raw buckets to the maximum extent possible, same thing I guess. I guess someone was irritated they were called out just because junior pilots were in bucket 2 or 3.
Anyways big no on that for me on that, but if we want to go back to the way it was then fine- caps have to come back too. That's what I mean. And I agree, caps would be awesome.
Anyways big no on that for me on that, but if we want to go back to the way it was then fine- caps have to come back too. That's what I mean. And I agree, caps would be awesome.
04-23-2013, 05:49 AM
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Profit excluding special items was 10 cents per share exceeded expectations of 6 cents per share, so it seems to me that the price should go up modestly.
04-23-2013, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Profit excluding special items was 10 cents per share exceeded expectations of 6 cents per share, so it seems to me that the price should go up modestly.
It's funny that when you look at yeehaw news that in the headlines, one will say DAL missed, and another will say that we beat expectations... It's all about how you spin it, isn't it.
Seems the shares are doing pretty good though.
04-23-2013, 06:11 AM
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