TANSTAAFL

I didn't say my reps don't know I said they weren't approached. I heard the ousted regime was muttering recall before Roberts even took office. Are you really surprised? I guess we'll find out if they are or they aren't - one of those self critiquing, self validating rumors.

zoomiezombie

My check was around $600. That's almost 15% of my dues for last year. I know premerger NW got less but I'll take that money thank you very much.

bigbusdriver

I always thought of him as more of a Moaker than the last chairman based on his ALPA forum posts and participation in the bankruptcy and merger as the money man. If there really are regimes voting then they picked a more Moakier chairman. That doesn't make sense in the premise of a Demoakracy controlling everything, because why would they vote in a staunch Moaker?

Bucking Bar

Something is up, but isn't it always?

There are good parts of both administrations. Since both administrations take their orders from the same ALPA President, there is not a great difference who holds those positions. The difference between enthusiastic support and tacit agreement is about the same when you are so paralyzed as to allow another pilot group to come in and do a deal with your management without your objection.

We should have expected push back from the Pinnacle cram down. IMHO if this administration is going to survive they must assert their power and differentiate themselves from their predecessors. The Pinnacle situation was the perfect opportunity to assert our MEC's power. Moak and ALPA National went completely off the reservation.

There are two schools of thought. The current view is that if we don't address our problems no one else will notice them. If no one realizes there is a problem, then the DPA can't use that issue.

In contrast, I think the line pilots would more respect an administration which was willing to fight national when the rights of their pilots' autonomy are violated. Better to be seen enforcing the rules than to be seen as sycophantic.

I don't want a recall, but at the end of the day it makes little difference which politicians are in office if we are going to follow the same wrongheaded policy to facilitate outsourcing our jobs.

That's my opinion; what's yours? Activist administration that demands national do what we want or constructive engagement with national?

hockeypilot44

Mine was $60.

ShyGuy

Mommy kept the two toddler 76-seaters, what did she do with 140 infant 50-seaters?

ShyGuy

Oh ok. Well if DPA happened in the future, it would be the end of ALPA. With the new AA/US/AWA being APA and Delta being DPA, that would leave only United as ALPA and the regionals. FedEx, too but that wouldn't be enough for ALPA to exist long term. Losing 12,000 Delta pilots will be the kiss of death for ALPA.

Bucking Bar

Died of natural causes.

Mommy Delta's been spending a lot of time with Richard Branson, an Eskimo, a Frenchman, an Italian, a Dutchman, a Mormon and a whole bunch of lationos. We kids sometimes worry about other children from these affairs.

Your mom claims to be a Virgin, but if you look at her checking account, she's been pulling tricks.

Maybe we should not compare airlines to our mothers.

ShyGuy

LOL! That was well done.

But don't forget, it was Delta back in the day who gave the mother the go ahead to stop using the pill and have tons of 50-seater infants...

80ktsClamp

That's doubtful. Moak with friend Wychor whistled right past Roberts and negotiated Pinnacle's deal directly with DAL management. Didn't even bother telling the DL MEC what was going on. Doesn't sound all that buddy-buddy to me...