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Old 05-24-2013 | 01:07 PM
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Wow...I'm using USAA at the moment but Wings will be my backup if they give me any problems.
I've been a long term member with enough in savings to cover the cost of the mortgage so maybe that was why I was given so little scrutiny.
Old 05-24-2013 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Yep points are points.

I think some people overlook the availability of loans from their 401K. If pilots are holding much in bonds (looking forward) or cash they would probably get a better safer return by "investing" in their own "TenYearsGone Bond Fund." The tax benefits of the mortgage deduction are offset by keeping all of your interest for yourself.

It seems we are taught 401K loans are always bad. But, leverage with one's own money seems a safer and more productive alternative than leverage with someone else's money. It is a true no cost loan ... your interest goes right back to you. Also in our industry the relief provided during furlough might be considered an additional benefit of the non traditional approach.

As a former pro in the biz, do you agree?
Far from pro,

But depending on your discipline,asset exposure and diversification; I am a proponent of borrowing money from one self (401K) to leverage into a Real Estate purchase. From what I recall you can borrow up to 50K on a 10 year payback with around 4% interest. If you are in the school of thought of paying your mortgage off, then use this tool to buy with 20+% down or else you will be paying PMI or government fees.

Also one has to take into account the upcoming rise in inflation. Rise in inflation, can and will effect your your interest rates, house values, stock values and most importantly the "TenYearGoneBondFund"(lower principle value).

TEN

PS> When dealing with home mortgages. Do your own homework. Find out what the true PAR is with your rate (kind of a slippery number). Inspect APR and compare with rate (should be extremely close or you are receiving a lot of costs) and ask a lot of questions. When a loan officer lets you know that your loan is 0 points and no cost to you, he/she is basically wrapping your costs to the loan or not giving you the best rate equivalent to PAR or minus. Negotiate your admin fees. Ask for a hud1 form before settlement date<--prompt this! Compare hud1 and gfe, they should be extremely close.
Old 05-24-2013 | 01:16 PM
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Both engines shed their cowling covers on this BA emergency today with smoke in the cabin. Look at the smoke coming from the engine, too. Going to be interesting to see what caused this one.

Old 05-24-2013 | 01:18 PM
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Deadhead - you are correct, but perhaps a bit pessimistic. We are about to enter into negotiations. Here are the set pieces:
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Musings on Virgin.
Etihad Airways has purchased India’s Jet Airways’ three pairs of slots at London Heathrow airport for $70 million. The Abu Dhabi carrier, which is in discussions over taking a substantial equity stake in the Indian airline, said the deal was part of a sale and leaseback arrangement, in which Jet Airways would continue to use the slots to operate flights to London.
$23.3 million per slot
Virgin Atlantic doesn’t belong to any of the big three airline alliances, and the airline commands a coveted 304 slots (3.3%) at Heathrow, and Delta lusts for access to them....And, for now, at least, reports indicated that Delta and Virgin are discussing a transatlantic joint venture, which would have a combined 332 slots at Heathrow.

If Air France-KLM eventually joins in with Virgin and Delta, then together they would command 686 slots at Heathrow, which is a greater presence than Skyteam’s entire current allotment of 601 slots at the airport.

Even if you add Virgin’s 304 allocations to Skyteam, for argument’s sake, bringing the total to 905 slots, the alliance would still be a distant third to Star Alliance’s 1,638 slots, let alone Oneworld’s 5,596.

However, with Delta’s paltry 28 slots at Heathrow, or 446 per week if you count joint operations with Air France and KLM, it’s clear that the Atlanta-based carrier has to do something dramatic to improve its access to more lucrative long-haul routes from Heathrow.
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Virgin Atlantic Limited says its revenue increased by five per cent to £2.87 billion, leading to improved airline load factors to 79 per cent (up by 1.3 per cent) with continued strong cash position of £412.3 million. The new figures were contained in the airline’s financial results for the year ending February 28, 2013.

In its accounts, the group showed increased revenues but highlighted rising costs, which impacted significantly on overall performance.

The group’s pre-tax loss of £69.9 million, which comprises an airline loss of £93 million...
In addition to $360 Million, my guess is that we pick up somewhere around half of the $140 million operating loss. Counting the loss, that is around $1.6 million per slot, if they all get used. Maybe a good deal, but we still need to turn it around and make some money.
Delta plans transatlantic shuttle service with Virgin
Author - Tom Otley - 24 May 2013

Delta wants to start a shuttle service between New York's JFK Terminal 4 and Heathrow's Terminal 3, the airline's CEO has revealed.

Delta boss Richard Anderson said: "Once we have gained the requisite approvals from the EU, Britain and the US our intention is to operate a joint Delta / Virgin shuttle from Terminal 4 into London Heathrow T3."

"[At the JFK end] that means we can use both lounges - the new SkyClub and the Clubhouse. If you look at the passenger survey data, the number one rated business product in the US to Europe market is Virgin Atlantic and number two is Delta, so they will join together to offer the very best service to the business traveller between JFK and Heathrow."

Under the proposed joint venture, Delta and Virgin Atlantic would co-ordinate schedules, network planning, pricing and sales between North America and the UK. The operation would be similar to that already run by British Airways and American Airlines across the Atlantic.

The two carriers would operate a total of 31 daily round trip flights between the UK and North America, 23 of which would operate at Heathrow. The airlines also plan to implement codesharing, reciprocal frequent flier benefits and shared lounge access.

The carriers are also seeking anti-trust immunity for five-way coordination on UK-US traffic flows so that Delta can continue to effectively operate its existing joint venture with European airlines Air France, KLM and Alitalia, alongside this proposed agreement with Virgin.

Anderson said that he envisaged that if regulator approval came through, it would do so in the "third quarter of this year".
Virgin Fleet:
Airbus A330-300 10
Airbus A340-300 4
Airbus A340-600 15
Airbus A380-800 6 On order, deliveries pushed from 2013 - 2017?
Boeing 747–400 12
Boeing 787–9 — 16 On order, deliveries 2014 (or whenever the stretched version of that Tupperware contraption smokes up JFK ... Boeing bought Douglas, Boeing goes to crap, coincidence?)

Total 41 jets currently in service 22 orders, 14 options. Load Factor was running high seventy percent to just below eighty percent. Their A340's were planned to go away.

Our contract provides that management must review this agreement with us and come to terms of an agreement. The default baseline is that Delta operate 75% of the block hours it sells (share of the revenue). So, if we were to hypothetically split revenue 50/50, we would get 37.5% of the flying.

Delta has also agreed to maintain current YOY flying levels for a year using a 3 month window.

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Old 05-24-2013 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Both engines shed their cowling covers on this BA emergency today with smoke in the cabin. Look at the smoke coming from the engine, too. Going to be interesting to see what caused this one.

Tail remained on the jet, no one stalled it into the Atlantic, or sunk it in the Hudson, nose gear pointing the general direction of travel ... hmm ... puzzler. Anyone catch Malaria?

Kind of looks like a compressor disk went kablooey. Just heard tower tape, something like "Sweet Fanny Adams Blimey Bloody Dog's Lunch probably the result of some dodgy wrenching, someone must have dropped a klanger. Bet that Nancyboy was gob smacked. But Bob's his Uncle, he made it!
Old 05-24-2013 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Tail remained on the jet, no one stalled it into the Atlantic, or sunk it in the Hudson, nose gear pointing the general direction of travel ... hmm ... puzzler. Anyone catch Malaria?

Kind of looks like a compressor disk went kablooey.
Yeah its better functioning than most Airbii, and for some strange reason its not going to or coming from EWR or MDW.

It does... but on both motors? All the cowlings shed in flight.
Old 05-24-2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Far from pro,

But depending on your discipline,asset exposure and diversification; I am a proponent of borrowing money from one self (401K) to leverage into a Real Estate purchase. From what I recall you can borrow up to 50K on a 10 year payback with around 4% interest.
I dunno Ten...

(Disclaimer: I've never borrowed from my 401K)

From what I've read (on the Internet, so it must be true, right?) borrowing from one's 401K is a last resort. For example:

8 Reasons To Never Borrow From Your 401(k)

Thinking of Borrowing Against Your 401k? Here's What You Need to Know | DailyPerk

401(k) Loans - Nine Things to Know About Borrowing from Your 401(k)

Perhaps I'm missing something (likely) but I don't see the advantage...

Suppose I borrow $50K and I pay myself 4% interest. That money is "growing" at 4% per year.

In the period 1928 to 2010, stocks earned an average of 11.3 percent, according to U.S. News and World Report.

So assuming average long term returns, I'm losing a net 7.3% on that 50K loan.

This strikes me as a bad deal. Please tell me what I'm missing.
Old 05-24-2013 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yeah its better functioning than most Airbii, and for some strange reason its not going to or coming from EWR or MDW.

It does... but on both motors? All the cowlings shed in flight.
Could it be, even in flight, like that AA 767.in LAX where the.blades from one side sliced through.to the.other?


I.love the periods between words...
Old 05-24-2013 | 02:33 PM
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I have a 401K loan out right now and I am paying myself back 6% interest. The bad part is I am make more than 6% on my 401K investments, so I am losing money. The good thing is I am paying myself back the interest and not a bank.

The mistake I made is I have maxed out my 401K so when I needed some money it was all tied up long term. I took out a loan and I am now paying it back to myself. I still max out my 401K because it's hard to get to and the smart thing to do, but knowing if I need it I can get it satisfies my financial needs.
Old 05-24-2013 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
I've been a long term member with enough in savings to cover the cost of the mortgage so maybe that was why I was given so little scrutiny.
Long time member here, too. They are the only "bank" in recent memory that bothers to have a change counter so you can dump in your sack of change and make a deposit, without charging a fee, or making you count it yourself.

They even give you back the buttons the machine spits out.

To be fair, if you take your change to Publix and take a Publix Gift card, it is no fee as well.

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