Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-24-2013 | 03:39 PM
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The sad part is that really looks like the ATL domestic crew room including the glass room in the back with the oddballs looking out. The computers have been updated as of a year ago but the dot matrix printers are stil... oh wait, we just replaced those. Yeah we've now made it up to 1989!
BTW, I see me in the back. Typing on the computer looking to see if anyone else is on APCF... yeah, I don't do APCF in the front row man, I'm in the back.
07-24-2013 | 03:42 PM
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I get the feeling that I'm being shown all the excuses on why the company will not be able to honor its portion of section 1. Almost as though I'm being prepared for bad news, or at the very least to anticipate what can be expected in the near future.
The 3 year window, in addition to the cure period, is basically useless if you ask me. March 2015 bumps up to openers for contract 2016 which undoubtedly be hung over our heads.
The 3 year window, in addition to the cure period, is basically useless if you ask me. March 2015 bumps up to openers for contract 2016 which undoubtedly be hung over our heads.
07-24-2013 | 03:49 PM
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We are being prepared by management's Pilot Arm (ALPA) to accept their non-compliance with our contract. ALPA considered politely asking them to comply, but realized they might be read out of the Circle of Trust. It's just so fun learning those company secrets protectd by NDAs, they can't give it up. So, we won't ruffle any feathers, let them do what they need to to maximize profits, and we'll get em next time.
07-24-2013 | 03:58 PM
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07-24-2013 | 04:11 PM
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how many RAW score points is recurrent worth nowadays?
well, not that it matters. I'm in Bucket 4 but 0 SCs so I'll owe some SCs. ALV+ here I come even with recurrent.
well, not that it matters. I'm in Bucket 4 but 0 SCs so I'll owe some SCs. ALV+ here I come even with recurrent.
07-24-2013 | 04:32 PM
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07-24-2013 | 04:41 PM
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07-24-2013 | 04:47 PM
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Wow!
From the update:
"At that point, Delta expected to grow compared to JV partners Air France, KLM and Alitalia. Due to many factors, this growth beyond our “fair share” has not occurred."
So if we were to meet the "contractually agreed to" numbers then we would be flying more than our "fair share" of the flying. No wonder DALPA does not seem too concerned about this.
This brings up numerous questions:
If the contractual number is not fair - why did we and/or our partners, and the company agree to them?
If the contractual numbers do not represent our fair share of the flying then what is our fair share?
Why don't they just say the company is not meeting its obligations and we expect them to correct it?
OBTW - Who had the great idea of a 3 year measurement window anyway?
Scoop
From the update:
"At that point, Delta expected to grow compared to JV partners Air France, KLM and Alitalia. Due to many factors, this growth beyond our “fair share” has not occurred."
So if we were to meet the "contractually agreed to" numbers then we would be flying more than our "fair share" of the flying. No wonder DALPA does not seem too concerned about this.
This brings up numerous questions:
If the contractual number is not fair - why did we and/or our partners, and the company agree to them?
If the contractual numbers do not represent our fair share of the flying then what is our fair share?
Why don't they just say the company is not meeting its obligations and we expect them to correct it?
OBTW - Who had the great idea of a 3 year measurement window anyway?
Scoop
Now I take exception to that. I say the contract defines what our "fair share" is and we are not going to be in compliance with it in on March 31, 2014. At least it doesn't look like the Company will be..... This begs the question: What will it take for the Company to be in compliance in 2014? On page one of the Update they say "......compliance is not a snapshot but a rolling three year period." That's going to be a lot of flying to make up.....
I'm going to the PUB event in Seattle in about an hour and will ask these questions....
Denny
07-24-2013 | 04:48 PM
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07-24-2013 | 04:53 PM
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Not only that, a couple of paragraphs above your quote they say "......, but the evidence also shows that within the TAJV, the Delta pilots have maintained their "fair share" of the work."
Now I take exception to that. I say the contract defines what our "fair share" is and we are not going to be in compliance with it in on March 31, 2014. At least it doesn't look like the Company will be..... This begs the question: What will it take for the Company to be in compliance in 2014? On page one of the Update they say "......compliance is not a snapshot but a rolling three year period." That's going to be a lot of flying to make up.....
I'm going to the PUB event in Seattle in about an hour and will ask these questions....
Denny
Now I take exception to that. I say the contract defines what our "fair share" is and we are not going to be in compliance with it in on March 31, 2014. At least it doesn't look like the Company will be..... This begs the question: What will it take for the Company to be in compliance in 2014? On page one of the Update they say "......compliance is not a snapshot but a rolling three year period." That's going to be a lot of flying to make up.....
I'm going to the PUB event in Seattle in about an hour and will ask these questions....
Denny
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