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Old 07-27-2013 | 09:45 AM
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anybody been through the 73N CQ lately? i heard it was a little different than years past...?? Thx!
New this week --> They just added nosewheel landing techniques.
Old 07-27-2013 | 10:39 AM
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Has anyone had the experience of having to do Jury duty? If so, could you enlighten me with your experience and how the company handles pay, daily procedures etc...?Thanks in advance.
Old 07-27-2013 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo

I mean heck, if they are going to do it anyway, why not tell DALPA the whole deal rests ON THEM capitulating...something, right?.....

I've been told that they would NEVER do something like that.
Old 07-27-2013 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
All I can say is this issue is going to be a slippery slope for DALPA and the Company to resolve....

Denny
Now that's an understatement!

The saddest part is the company was given "wiggle" room.
+/- 1.5% from the target of 50% and thats on a rolling 3-year average.

Then in addition, they were given 1.P.4. Note two, essentially a one time "get out of jail" card.
All the company had to do is meet 49.75% for a 12-moth period and all previous "underages" would be wiped clean.

Even with this extra bit of flexibility Delta still will fail to meet the target on March 30, 2014.
Multiple opportunities gave the company lots of flexibility to execute the business plan.

The PWA gave Delta enough flexibility that the company could have ceased flying any Transatlantic JV flying for two years, then brought our percentage to 49.75% for the current 12-month period ending March 30th, 2014 and Delta would have been deemed in compliance.

All of this won't matter and I'll be happy as a clam if we actually make the new JV language 1.E.8, just added in the last contract, stick when it comes to the Virgin JV:
the Company’s share block hours flown under the JV will be at least 75% of the Company’s share of revenue in that twelve-month period.
Since Delta owns half of Virgin, Delta's share of the revenue of the Virgin/DAL JV is 75%. If we really get to fly 75% of Delta's portion of the Revenue as is stipulated in PWA 1.E.8, we would get a 56% share of all Virgin/DAL JV flying. That would be a lot of flying added. If we really see a 56% share of flying for Delta pilots in the Virgin/DAL JV, this thread will be a very happy place.

Cheers
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Old 07-27-2013 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
Has anyone had the experience of having to do Jury duty? If so, could you enlighten me with your experience and how the company handles pay, daily procedures etc...?Thanks in advance.

Take a look at contract section 13 E. It describes Legal Duty leaves and what you need to do. I believe it addresses what you want to know.

Denny
Old 07-27-2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Now that's an understatement!

The saddest part is the company was given "wiggle" room.
+/- 1.5% from the target of 50% and thats on a rolling 3-year average.

Then in addition, they were given 1.P.4. Note two, essentially a one time "get out of jail" card.
All the company had to do is meet 49.75% for a 12-moth period and all previous "underages" would be wiped clean.

Even with this extra bit of flexibility Delta still will fail to meet the target on March 30, 2014.
Multiple opportunities gave the company lots of flexibility to execute the business plan.

The PWA gave Delta enough flexibility that the company could have ceased flying any Transatlantic JV flying for two years, then brought our percentage to 49.75% for the current 12-month period ending March 30th, 2014 and Delta would have been deemed in compliance.

All of this won't matter and I'll be happy as a clam if we actually make the new JV language 1.E.8, just added in the last contract, stick when it comes to the Virgin JV:
the Company’s share block hours flown under the JV will be at least 75% of the Company’s share of revenue in that twelve-month period.
Since Delta owns half of Virgin, Delta's share of the revenue of the Virgin/DAL JV is 75%. If we really get to fly 75% of Delta's portion of the Revenue as is stipulated in PWA 1.E.8, we would get a 56% share of all Virgin/DAL JV flying. That would be a lot of flying added. If we really see a 56% share of flying for Delta pilots in the Virgin/DAL JV, this thread will be a very happy place.

Cheers
George
Yes George it was an understatement.

Yes they could be in compliance in your scenario but what about the lost flying? According to the Update, it's not a snapshot but cumulative compliance.

I hope we do too.

Denny
Old 07-27-2013 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Take a look at contract section 13 E. It describes Legal Duty leaves and what you need to do. I believe it addresses what you want to know.

Denny

Denny...Thank You.
Old 07-27-2013 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Yes George it was an understatement.

Yes they could be in compliance in your scenario but what about the lost flying? According to the Update, it's not a snapshot but cumulative compliance.

I hope we do too.

Denny

Yup it's always a cumulative look-back of the previous of three years taken on March 30.

But 1.P.4, Note Two permits a one-time 12-month only cumulative loock-back if we reach 49.75%.
1.P.4 Note two then permits any previous year underages will be discarded...

Delta could technically still use this provision in 2015, looking back 12 months and meet the letter of the contract.

Cheers
George
Old 07-27-2013 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
You forgot (fill the in blank for any MEMRAT issue)

Glossy graphs showing how many positions we will grow if we agree vs. if we don't,
Memo's from SD hinting at hiring as soon as we ratify,
ALPA lawyers saying we'll get worse if we turn it down,
Much free beer and pizza,
No pro and con paper,
Rhetoric about trusting our leaders,
and all oppisiton will be met with the usual recycled comebacks about DPA, certain Reps, unity, we could end up like APA, USAPA, the economy, etc, and for it to pass 60/40.....
Then I'll make a table off known data, graph it, and then be called a liar.
Then it'll pass and the next earnings investor call would prove the no votes were more correct then we knew and something something USAPA...
Old 07-27-2013 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
New this week --> They just added nosewheel landing techniques.
Well they did make it below flaps 40 extension speed a few seconds before touchdown. Besides, aren't the mains rated for 10'/sec? What is the rating on the nosegear? Indestructible? Apparently not.
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