Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-05-2013, 05:56 PM
seeing the large hubs...
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Yes, but they are very expensive, not many deals to be had I hear. Airbus newest product is the A350, which is selling fine, but not available for a while. I bet Airbus is giving great deals on the 330 - and you know who loves out of date products at discount products? 
MD90...
717...
737-900ERs...
MD90...
717...
737-900ERs...
08-05-2013, 06:01 PM
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new cabin for the 757 75e category
I stole this from another site but the 75E fleet that will be used on transcons. Is getting a new cabin! The following link has pictures. BTW mods if you feel this violates any policies please delete.
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TAKING*OFFInside Delta // Take a Peek Inside the New 757-200 Business Elite CabinBy: Aaron S., Product Manager- Delta Customer Experience, AtlantaIf you’ve followed developments in Delta’s “transcon” service, you know that we have recently rolled out a whole host of product and service enhancements – everything from expanded*Economy Comfort*seating, to premium meal and beverage options, toflat-bed seats*onboard our 767 widebody aircraft. Well there is much more to come!The product team is excited to share a sneak preview of our new 757-200 (75E)BusinessElite®*flat-bed cabin. These aircraft will be getting completely refurbished from nose to tail and will offer an industry leading product with all of the bells and whistles. Cabin mood lighting, brand new leather seats, and the latest in in-flight entertainment are just a few of the highlights. Look for these aircraft to start hitting the skies in the spring of 2014. For those of you interested in the details, below is a full account of all of the changes.BusinessElite®• 16 seats in a 2 x 2 configuration• Seats are staggered and slightly angled toward the windows to optimize privacy and personal space• Seat width is 20.2” which can be increased to 22.2” with the armrest stowed• 180º fully flat bed (average bed length of 76”)• Electronic seat controls with adjustable lumbar support• 110v AC in-seat power + USB power• Adjustable personal LED reading lightEconomy Comfort• 44 seats at 35” pitch & and up to 50% more recline in a 3 x 3 layout• “Slim-line” seat provides more personal space• 4-way adjustable headrests• 110v AC in-seat power + USB powerEconomy• 108 seats at a minimum of 31” pitch and 4” recline in 3 x 3 layout• “Slim-line” seat provides more personal space• 4-way adjustable headrests• 110v AC in-seat power + USB powerPersonal On Demand Entertainment• 16” Elite Integrated Smart Monitors in BusinessElite; 9” Eco 9i Integrated Smart Monitors in Economy Comfort & Economy• 18 channels of live satellite TV• 350 films• 130 hours of stored TV• 95 hours of premium programming from HBO & Showtime• 5,000 digital songs• 27 games• Moving mapCabin Enhancements• Full-spectrum LED cabin mood lighting system• Onboard Wi-Fi• New lavatories throughout the aircraft featuring LED lighting and touchless flush• Updated carpet color – a darker, richer shade of blue• New bulkhead “Sky Diamond” laminates reminiscent of the Sky Club backwall• Redesigned Economy Comfort & Economy seat covers with additional comfort padding• New placards and signage.This project is the result of a lot of hard work from many talented and passionate folks across Delta. We hope you are excited about the upcoming improvements and we’d love to hear any feedback you may have!*12 hours ago7 notes*perfectmask*likes this*theirishdino*likes this*issuedesecours*reblogged this fromtakingoff*senior-crown*likes this*kcabe*reblogged this from*takingoff*and added:This is so exciting
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TAKING*OFFInside Delta // Take a Peek Inside the New 757-200 Business Elite CabinBy: Aaron S., Product Manager- Delta Customer Experience, AtlantaIf you’ve followed developments in Delta’s “transcon” service, you know that we have recently rolled out a whole host of product and service enhancements – everything from expanded*Economy Comfort*seating, to premium meal and beverage options, toflat-bed seats*onboard our 767 widebody aircraft. Well there is much more to come!The product team is excited to share a sneak preview of our new 757-200 (75E)BusinessElite®*flat-bed cabin. These aircraft will be getting completely refurbished from nose to tail and will offer an industry leading product with all of the bells and whistles. Cabin mood lighting, brand new leather seats, and the latest in in-flight entertainment are just a few of the highlights. Look for these aircraft to start hitting the skies in the spring of 2014. For those of you interested in the details, below is a full account of all of the changes.BusinessElite®• 16 seats in a 2 x 2 configuration• Seats are staggered and slightly angled toward the windows to optimize privacy and personal space• Seat width is 20.2” which can be increased to 22.2” with the armrest stowed• 180º fully flat bed (average bed length of 76”)• Electronic seat controls with adjustable lumbar support• 110v AC in-seat power + USB power• Adjustable personal LED reading lightEconomy Comfort• 44 seats at 35” pitch & and up to 50% more recline in a 3 x 3 layout• “Slim-line” seat provides more personal space• 4-way adjustable headrests• 110v AC in-seat power + USB powerEconomy• 108 seats at a minimum of 31” pitch and 4” recline in 3 x 3 layout• “Slim-line” seat provides more personal space• 4-way adjustable headrests• 110v AC in-seat power + USB powerPersonal On Demand Entertainment• 16” Elite Integrated Smart Monitors in BusinessElite; 9” Eco 9i Integrated Smart Monitors in Economy Comfort & Economy• 18 channels of live satellite TV• 350 films• 130 hours of stored TV• 95 hours of premium programming from HBO & Showtime• 5,000 digital songs• 27 games• Moving mapCabin Enhancements• Full-spectrum LED cabin mood lighting system• Onboard Wi-Fi• New lavatories throughout the aircraft featuring LED lighting and touchless flush• Updated carpet color – a darker, richer shade of blue• New bulkhead “Sky Diamond” laminates reminiscent of the Sky Club backwall• Redesigned Economy Comfort & Economy seat covers with additional comfort padding• New placards and signage.This project is the result of a lot of hard work from many talented and passionate folks across Delta. We hope you are excited about the upcoming improvements and we’d love to hear any feedback you may have!*12 hours ago7 notes*perfectmask*likes this*theirishdino*likes this*issuedesecours*reblogged this fromtakingoff*senior-crown*likes this*kcabe*reblogged this from*takingoff*and added:This is so exciting
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08-05-2013, 06:23 PM
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You may want to research this just a bit more before posting. What Boeing actually said was 10 a month total between both Everett and SC. SC was supposed to be up to 3 per month by end of year 2013 and will not reach that until Q1 2014. Everett is supposed to be at 7 a month for a total of 10. But don't let facts get in the way of some good Boeing non-union work force bashing.
08-05-2013, 06:37 PM
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The new transcontinental business configuration
http://takingoff.delta.com/post/5742...he-new-757-200
http://takingoff.delta.com/post/5742...he-new-757-200
08-05-2013, 06:40 PM
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I wonder if Boeing can recycle the carbon barrels (fuselages) that aren't right?
I've never heard that you can recycle carbon fiber anything once it's baked, it's done. Another advantage for aluminum.
So...I guess they'd have to 'fix' what ever doesn't fit (adding weight as BB said) or scrap them completely? Wow.
I've never heard that you can recycle carbon fiber anything once it's baked, it's done. Another advantage for aluminum.
So...I guess they'd have to 'fix' what ever doesn't fit (adding weight as BB said) or scrap them completely? Wow.
In its construction of the aircraft, Piaggio Aero stands out for its innovation and efficiency. The novel technique used for the PP.180 Avanti II is a reversal of the "normal" aircraft assembly process. Contrary to the usual construction procedure, the outer surface of the aircraft is first built to project specifications, thus ensuring that the dimensions and shapes comply exactly with those on the blueprints. Only at this point are the external forms connected to the internal structures. Introduced for the first time by Piaggio Aero, this innovative construction method involves forming the aluminum panels of the fuselage in advance, and then maintaining them in the prescribed position and shape. The process is made possible by applying a patented pneumatic vacuum system while the struts and reinforcement ribs are riveted. The panels are then connected to the structural elements from the inside, which absolutely prevents warping or imperfections in the fuselage, so that a level of surface finishing is reached that is possible only with the use of composite materials. Thanks to these innovative technical, design and construction solutions, the Piaggio P.180 Avanti II achieves a specific range of 0.84 nautical miles per pound of fuel, which translates into unmatched operational efficiency and extremely low environmental impact.
08-05-2013, 07:08 PM
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You may want to research this just a bit more before posting. What Boeing actually said was 10 a month total between both Everett and SC. SC was supposed to be up to 3 per month by end of year 2013 and will not reach that until Q1 2014. Everett is supposed to be at 7 a month for a total of 10. But don't let facts get in the way of some good Boeing non-union work force bashing.
= Leeham News
First, it emerged that Boeing’s Charleston plant will not reach a production target of three per month by the end of this year as Boeing repeatedly said. The Charleston Post & Courier first reported the story, and the Puget Sound Business Journal picked up on it Friday.
We weren’t surprised by this because (1) we’d been hearing rumblings for months that progress at Charleston was less than Boeing was suggesting publicly and (2) we got a call from the Post & Courier reporter a week ago perplexed by Boeing’s response when he made inquiries. And to us, this is the most bizarre part of the entire story. Boeing’s official response was quite snarky:
“If anyone was under the impression that Boeing South Carolina would be at three per month by the end of this year, they didn’t understand what we’ve been saying about the surge line in Everett helping us to meet the program-level rate as the facility there comes up in rate. That’s been our message for a long time now,” the Boeing Charleston spokesperson told the P&C and Everett told the Business Journal (via two different spokespersons).
This was really quite a ****y official statement from Boeing.
When the P&C presented Boeing with Boeing’s own statements from last year pledging a 3/mo production rate at Charleston, the Corporate Communications people had to backtrack. Steve Wilhelm at the Business Journal wrote:
But when confronted with Boeing’s own October 2012 release stating that the North Charleston operation would hit three monthly by the end of this year, as well as a 2012 interview with North Charleston site director Jack Jones, in which he said he expected to hit an even-higher 3.5 monthly rate by the end of this year, the Boeing communications team backed down.
After conferring with her colleagues, presumably in North Charleston, [Lori] Gunter (Boeing Everett) issued this statement:
“The 787 program is on track to reach a total production rate of 10 airplanes per month by the end of 2013. This rate will be accomplished by combining the results of the Everett Final Assembly Line, the Boeing South Carolina Final Assembly Line and the Temporary Surge Line in Everett. Boeing South Carolina is expected to reach a production rate of three airplanes per month in 2014.”
This is an embarrassing display from Boeing.
First, it emerged that Boeing’s Charleston plant will not reach a production target of three per month by the end of this year as Boeing repeatedly said. The Charleston Post & Courier first reported the story, and the Puget Sound Business Journal picked up on it Friday.
We weren’t surprised by this because (1) we’d been hearing rumblings for months that progress at Charleston was less than Boeing was suggesting publicly and (2) we got a call from the Post & Courier reporter a week ago perplexed by Boeing’s response when he made inquiries. And to us, this is the most bizarre part of the entire story. Boeing’s official response was quite snarky:
“If anyone was under the impression that Boeing South Carolina would be at three per month by the end of this year, they didn’t understand what we’ve been saying about the surge line in Everett helping us to meet the program-level rate as the facility there comes up in rate. That’s been our message for a long time now,” the Boeing Charleston spokesperson told the P&C and Everett told the Business Journal (via two different spokespersons).
This was really quite a ****y official statement from Boeing.
When the P&C presented Boeing with Boeing’s own statements from last year pledging a 3/mo production rate at Charleston, the Corporate Communications people had to backtrack. Steve Wilhelm at the Business Journal wrote:
But when confronted with Boeing’s own October 2012 release stating that the North Charleston operation would hit three monthly by the end of this year, as well as a 2012 interview with North Charleston site director Jack Jones, in which he said he expected to hit an even-higher 3.5 monthly rate by the end of this year, the Boeing communications team backed down.
After conferring with her colleagues, presumably in North Charleston, [Lori] Gunter (Boeing Everett) issued this statement:
“The 787 program is on track to reach a total production rate of 10 airplanes per month by the end of 2013. This rate will be accomplished by combining the results of the Everett Final Assembly Line, the Boeing South Carolina Final Assembly Line and the Temporary Surge Line in Everett. Boeing South Carolina is expected to reach a production rate of three airplanes per month in 2014.”
This is an embarrassing display from Boeing.
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08-05-2013, 07:37 PM
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Back online after two weeks at Philmont dodging blisters, bears, and Gold Bond addiction (GBA)....Need a recap of the last 327 pages that I missed....thinking DPA, scope creep, rotund senior mamas, and ordering 787s...am I missing anything?
Also...how do I keep these hairy nightmares out of my mind....?
Also...how do I keep these hairy nightmares out of my mind....?
08-05-2013, 08:04 PM
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Why did you have to post a picture of 1980's Demi Moore, DW??
08-06-2013, 03:57 AM
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Hey Timbo,
Indycar and F1 bubbas redo carbon tubs/wings/bits pretty frequently.....no TSO required, but the ability is there. I'm no stress engineer, but being able to determine inner carbon condition without destructive testing is the nettlesome problem......we found that out over at Purple after the American A300 accident where the carbon tail departed...
Regards,
BG
Indycar and F1 bubbas redo carbon tubs/wings/bits pretty frequently.....no TSO required, but the ability is there. I'm no stress engineer, but being able to determine inner carbon condition without destructive testing is the nettlesome problem......we found that out over at Purple after the American A300 accident where the carbon tail departed...
Regards,
BG
I know you can take say, a retired RJ 50, and make it into something useful like...Beer Cans, but can you take a bad 787 fuselage barrel, melt it down and make it into something useful, like...a good 787?
Do the F1 guys melt down the carbon fiber and reuse it to make a different part, or are they just slapping more carbon and epoxy over it? I think that's the "Fix" needed in the bad 787 fuselage barrels, which makes them heavier.
My catamaran racing buddies use a lot of carbon fiber in the hulls, masts, beams, etc. Some of the homebuilders have their own ovens to bake their own masts and hulls. They tell me that besides being expensive, it's a beoch to work with, and once a $10,000 mast cracks, it's garbage.
Yes you can put a patch over the crack, but then it's heavier and won't bend right under load....so it's garbage to the true racing zealots.
Maybe Boeing should have used what the custom boat builders used before carbon fiber: WOOD!
08-06-2013, 04:01 AM
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