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Old 08-15-2013 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
No, the 73-9 and maybe the 321, if rumors come to fruition
Ok. Thanks for the clarification. I figured I was misunderstanding your statement.
Old 08-15-2013 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The 737 hasn't done malarone required trips in 3 years, and no double all-nighters for 4 years... Do you hate your liver that bad to take it on trips where it's not needed?
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Old 08-15-2013 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Not necessarily due to the brilliant ADG exemption... I've gotten burned by that several times already.
True, take a look at the LAX 73 bid package. SEVERAL of those.
Old 08-15-2013 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
Can you show me a 3 day SA trip worth 11:45 because I don't believe it. The minimum should be 13:30. (Not that I'm excited about that, but let's stick to facts)
Here's a 3 day Central American trip that pays 10:30. I have 4 next month.

LAX PILOT 7ER *** ROTATION OPER
L487 POS-AB EFFECTIVE JUL14 CHECK IN AT 23.01
ON DUTY
DAY FLT T DEPARTS ARRIVES C BLK M/U TURN M EQP ACT/MAX
14 457 LAX 0001 GUA 0550 4.49 757 6.19/ 9.00

GUA 23.40/EL HOTEL DE LOS PILOTOS 4.49BL

FAR DUTY TIME 6.19 4.49TL

15 458 GUA 0700 LAX 1057 4.57 6.27/12.30

4.57BL
4.57TL
0.39TRP
0.05DPA
REGULAR--10.30TL 9.46BL 0.44CR 0.00MU
RESERVE- 10.25TL 9.46BL 0.39CR 0.00MU

UGH!!!

Baja.

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Old 08-15-2013 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
Here's a 3 day Central American trip that pays 10:30. I have 4 next month.

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But hey, at least we got 4/8/3/3.

3-days worth 10:30 pretty much invalidate that "time value of money" nonsense.
Old 08-15-2013 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Had an interesting experience at a friend's house. He tuned in Al Jazeera and demonstrated that Fox (as a corporate conglomerate) basically took Jazeera feed and added commentary. Never would have put it together that Fox's international coverage is mostly a rebroadcast product. Maybe Buzz can set us straight on my observations.

CNN (while sometimes slanted) is a terrific customer of Delta Air Lines and part of the home team business community in Atlanta.

Mostly, I get my news from the British press.
My experiences, and perspective, comes from this: I've done "hits" on FOX, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, and ABC News with Diane Sawyer. Off the air, 90% of the hosts I've dealt with have been very nice and accommodating. Chris Mathews was ok. We shared numerous interviews during a summer of discontent. He hasn't called back for quite awhile. I don't miss him.

Anyway, I think Fox does a good job but I've stopped watching except for The Five because I really like Greg Gutfeld's take on almost everything. CNN is doing a much better job with neutrality since they shifted their business strategy because they were getting their ass handed to them by Fox. I watch the alphabet networks when I can. MSNBC is a joke and continues to slit their wrists financially. I watch them, like Sharpton and Maddow, for comedic value. This might surprise you but I also watch the British networks and RF.

As to Fox, or any other network outsourcing footage like AJ.....they all do it in one form or another. When I embedded in Iraq to write "War Crimes," I ventured into the Green Zone once to seek out all of the major media "war correspondents" that I wasn't seeing actually covering the war. They were all hanging out at the bar and pool of the Al Rashid Hotel watching Al Jazeera drinking beer and writing their "battlefield posts." They never ventured out of the safety zone.

I look at media like I look at our current politicians. They're all pushing their agenda to sell ads and gain viewer or readership. Just ask the LA Times how that's working out. I choose to fly. I'll get back to writing someday but, right now, my stomach turns over the entire mess. People shouldn't fly angry.
Old 08-15-2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
But hey, at least we got 4/8/3/3.

3-days worth 10:30 pretty much invalidate that "time value of money" nonsense.
Ok.. Since I don't see any of these on the 88, what concession was made in the contract that previously prevented this sort of rotation?

Or, were they already allowed and being constructed and are now at least paying more (4, 8.5) than before?
Old 08-15-2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco
Ok.. Since I don't see any of these on the 88, what concession was made in the contract that previously prevented this sort of rotation?

Or, were they already allowed and being constructed and are now at least paying more (4, 8.5) than before?
Had they not been in such an irrational rush to bend over for the company and its "fleeting opportunities," ALPA would have had the chance to more fully identify and negotiate to end abominations such as that.

Or did the survey demand 3-day trips worth 10:30?
Old 08-15-2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
Here's a 3 day Central American trip that pays 10:30. I have 4 next month.

LAX PILOT 7ER *** ROTATION OPER
L487 POS-AB EFFECTIVE JUL14 CHECK IN AT 23.01
ON DUTY
DAY FLT T DEPARTS ARRIVES C BLK M/U TURN M EQP ACT/MAX
14 457 LAX 0001 GUA 0550 4.49 757 6.19/ 9.00

GUA 23.40/EL HOTEL DE LOS PILOTOS 4.49BL

FAR DUTY TIME 6.19 4.49TL

15 458 GUA 0700 LAX 1057 4.57 6.27/12.30

4.57BL
4.57TL
0.39TRP
0.05DPA
REGULAR--10.30TL 9.46BL 0.44CR 0.00MU
RESERVE- 10.25TL 9.46BL 0.39CR 0.00MU

UGH!!!

Baja.
Baja my last year on the 7ER was reserve and al I flew were the 10hr OGG and GUA... I hated them but then just got used to them! Especially all the guns in GUA on the streets and shady characters running around! But the food at that tree house place was good and it was cheap!!! Just wear running shoes and zig zag all the way back to the hotel!!!

Fiig
Old 08-15-2013 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
I flew were the 10hr OGG and GUA... I hated them but then just got used to them! Especially all the guns in GUA on the streets and shady characters running around! But the food at that tree house place was good and it was cheap!!! Just wear running shoes and zig zag all the way back to the hotel!!!

Fiig
"I hated them but then got used to them" and then actually grew to enjoy them! Hey, I got Montezuma's revenge, and I only had to spend a few bucks! I hated sitting on the sh!tter all day, but I did get to read a bunch of Nancy Drew novels! So it was great!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we will never, ever vote down a TA or realize our full earnings potential.
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