Honest questions...How is our tie up with Virgin different from Alitalia's with AF/KLM in terms of the JV? Could Delta's plan be to include the EASKs flown by Virgin into Delta's percentage and then be in compliance? I hope the JV is for the DAL metal share? Didn't Alitalia's flying get lumped into AF/KLM's share?

Philly

Straight from the negotiators last week - The AF/KLM/AZ JV is going to remain completely separate from the Delta/Virginia Atlantic JV.

One will not impact the other - ie Virgin will not be used to get the company trending back towards compliance. The AF/KLM/AZ JV will have to stand on its own.

08-23-2013 | 12:41 PM

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firstmob

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I'm beginning to believe the WB order is just that a rumor and not fact!

08-23-2013 | 12:47 PM

#137703

80ktsClamp

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From: Poodle Whisperer

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Originally Posted by johnso29

An agreement for the Virgin Atlantic JV hasn't even been agreed to yet. So I'm fairly certain that isn't possible. The JV hasn't even officially kicked off yet. AFAIK, we are simply code sharing with Virgin Atlantic right now.

ALPA and the company haven't even begun real negotiations for the JV LOA yet.

08-23-2013 | 12:50 PM

#137704

80ktsClamp

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From: Poodle Whisperer

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Originally Posted by johnso29

As to the 717s, I'd say the union was smart. They knew 717s or 319s were available for a very quick delivery. What if the company picked the C-Series? An airplane that hasn't even flown yet, & is way over budget.

Anyone with two eyes and a brain could see that the 717 deal was too good to pass up. Given the company's behavior with regard to used aircraft deals, there should be zero doubt in anyone's mind they were jumping on that ASAP. Quite obvious the CRJ-200 trades were happening no matter what, too. It would have been a stupid financial decison not to do so, and the company doesn't do many of those.

08-23-2013 | 01:03 PM

#137705

LeineLodge

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From: DAL FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstmob

I'm beginning to believe the WB order is just that a rumor and not fact!

Dude, are you a reporter trolling for rumors? A quick scan of your posts shows about 90% one-liners like this asking about a "WB order".

What gives?

08-23-2013 | 01:16 PM

#137706

firstmob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

Dude, are you a reporter trolling for rumors? A quick scan of your posts shows about 90% one-liners like this asking about a "WB order".

What gives?

Just looking at growth and a chance to move up the list.

08-23-2013 | 01:28 PM

#137707

LeineLodge

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From: DAL FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstmob

Just looking at growth and a chance to move up the list.

I hear ya. Just having a little fun with you.

The rumor mill keeps putting out 10 WBs and 30 NBs are being bid on. Hopefully all of the above happens soon, AND they're growth aircraft.

08-23-2013 | 02:05 PM

#137708

Purple Drank

Straight QOL, homie

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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Hindsight is 20/20. That is the way we see most of the PWA language and determine what needs improvement.

Or as Nancy Pelosi would say, "we have to pass the bill in order to see what's in it."

Company's playing chess. ALPA is playing checkers.

08-23-2013 | 02:19 PM

#137709

DeadHead

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog

20 bucks and a case of beer to the first person who tapes the first "two girls one cup" reaction video of one of our pilots.

I'm good for it....

08-23-2013 | 02:21 PM

#137710

DeadHead

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Or as Nancy Pelosi would say, "we have to pass the bill in order to see what's in it."

Company's playing chess. ALPA is playing checkers.

Actually the company's playing duck hunt, and ALPA is out snipe hunting.

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