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Old 08-23-2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Anyone with two eyes and a brain could see that the 717 deal was too good to pass up. Given the company's behavior with regard to used aircraft deals, there should be zero doubt in anyone's mind they were jumping on that ASAP. Quite obvious the CRJ-200 trades were happening no matter what, too. It would have been a stupid financial decison not to do so, and the company doesn't do many of those.
Okay, say you are correct and the company doesn't pass up the 88 717's. We are still in negotiations for a new contract now and probably for the next year or two. Company takes delivery of 88 aircraft the maxes out the 76 seaters allowed under the old contract (I can't remember how many but well more than is allowed now.) Then dumps the 757's.... and trades in the 50 seaters for the new 76'ers at DCI (kinda like they've done). We are now in 2015 with a possible new contract and way more 76 seaters than allowed now. Plus no cap on total RJ's and no ratio.

You cannot have it both ways. Like you said, the Company doesn't make many stupid financial decisions.

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Old 08-23-2013 | 02:26 PM
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Johnso, you're wrong on the sick leave.
Deleted a long post... basically, company is calling to ask for nature of illness and supporting docs even when you send in a verification doctor's note, with no good faith basis (I asked).

Had it happen to me, USAF docs note not good enough... verification denied.
Old 08-23-2013 | 02:35 PM
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Good letter from Steve Dickson out today on hiring info.
He gave some good info and details on the numbers of folks and where they'd come from for training. Said 168 recall guys had to answer, of which 142 said they'll return and 8 have declined. At that rate, extrapolated to the full 168, there will be 159 folks return.
Old 08-23-2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Johnso, you're wrong on the sick leave.
Deleted a long post... basically, company is calling to ask for nature of illness and supporting docs even when you send in a verification doctor's note, with no good faith basis (I asked).

Had it happen to me, USAF docs note not good enough... verification denied.
Hmm, I've called in sick twice since June* and haven't heard word one from the company.


* That's what 4 small kids gets ya. Sick.
Old 08-23-2013 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Johnso, you're wrong on the sick leave.
Deleted a long post... basically, company is calling to ask for nature of illness and supporting docs even when you send in a verification doctor's note, with no good faith basis (I asked).

Had it happen to me, USAF docs note not good enough... verification denied.
Then you should make sure you have all your supporting documentation and call Dalpa asap. That is not right and not what is in the contract.

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Old 08-23-2013 | 03:01 PM
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Non rev travels and it looks like I might be stuck in Minneapolis tonight. Does anyone know of a commuter friendly hotel?

Thanks
Old 08-23-2013 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Okay, say you are correct and the company doesn't pass up the 88 717's. We are still in negotiations for a new contract now and probably for the next year or two. Company takes delivery of 88 aircraft the maxes out the 76 seaters allowed under the old contract (I can't remember how many but well more than is allowed now.) Then dumps the 757's.... and trades in the 50 seaters for the new 76'ers at DCI (kinda like they've done). We are now in 2015 with a possible new contract and way more 76 seaters than allowed now. Plus no cap on total RJ's and no ratio.
The flaw in that logic might be that the allowable 76-seater count was
lower than what is allowed now. They needed us to enable this up-gauge strategy.

I don't mean to sound like I am lecturing you: I bought into this TA.
Old 08-23-2013 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Anyone with two eyes and a brain could see that the 717 deal was too good to pass up. Given the company's behavior with regard to used aircraft deals, there should be zero doubt in anyone's mind they were jumping on that ASAP. Quite obvious the CRJ-200 trades were happening no matter what, too. It would have been a stupid financial decison not to do so, and the company doesn't do many of those.
Not to mention, we gave up more 51+ seaters than the previously PWA allowed.

That was probably more important than figuring out a way to park the 50 seaters. I mean if they can get a bunch of pilots who want a pay raise to agree to 70 jumbo RJs and to decouple it from the required mainline growth then there ain't nothing they can't figure out how to do.
Old 08-23-2013 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by deadhead
20 bucks and a case of beer to the first person who tapes the first "two girls one cup" reaction video of one of our pilots.

i'm good for it....
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Old 08-23-2013 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Johnso, you're wrong on the sick leave.
Deleted a long post... basically, company is calling to ask for nature of illness and supporting docs even when you send in a verification doctor's note, with no good faith basis (I asked).

Had it happen to me, USAF docs note not good enough... verification denied.
You need to contact your rep and the Contract Admin people with all your information... They will help sort it out and it adds to their "ammo pile" to keep the company in line for now and in the future.
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