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No. That's what the cntract states. Please reference me to where in our contract it states that the company may take delivery of 76 seaters over 153 before taking delivery of 1.25 717s.
The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters.
The measurement period has nothing to do with the ratio of 76 seaters to 717s. It measures the amount of 50 seaters to 76 seaters.
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today:
Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware
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I'll give you guys a nudge. Sec 1.46.f exception 1
Read that, & then cut and paste where it says what you're claiming. I'd paste the language here, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Sorry.
Read that, & then cut and paste where it says what you're claiming. I'd paste the language here, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Sorry.
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Sorry, first measurement period isn't until January. Yet another loophole tht was neglected to be effectively communicated during the sales job.
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today:
Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware
Or would you like to tell these guys as they delivered the first new one today:
Pinnacle (9E) #3265 ? 30-Aug-2013 ? CYMX - KMSP Flight Tracker ? FlightAware
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I think Johnson might be right on this but it should definitely be resolved.
Once again referencing Negotiators Notepad 5-12:
Delivery of additional 76-seat aircraft is prohibited until SNB aircraft are first added to
the mainline fleet, and then, a simultaneous reduction of 50-seat aircraft is required. This
is an event-based process and not time or date-based. As Delta implements their
business plan and adds more SNBs, only then may they add more 76-seat aircraft, while
also removing 50-seat aircraft. Once a 50-seat aircraft is removed, the number of
allowable 50-seat aircraft is capped at that level until the next removal and so on. That
cap can then never increase.
Event based with no date attached. I looked in the Live Contract but could not find this - I did see the 2014 date mentioned with Block hour ratios but not in regard to small NB vs. additional 76 seaters.
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Once again referencing Negotiators Notepad 5-12:
Delivery of additional 76-seat aircraft is prohibited until SNB aircraft are first added to
the mainline fleet, and then, a simultaneous reduction of 50-seat aircraft is required. This
is an event-based process and not time or date-based. As Delta implements their
business plan and adds more SNBs, only then may they add more 76-seat aircraft, while
also removing 50-seat aircraft. Once a 50-seat aircraft is removed, the number of
allowable 50-seat aircraft is capped at that level until the next removal and so on. That
cap can then never increase.
Event based with no date attached. I looked in the Live Contract but could not find this - I did see the 2014 date mentioned with Block hour ratios but not in regard to small NB vs. additional 76 seaters.
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Those 900s are still flying in DL colors... I believe for Expressjet.
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20 Note two: If on January 1, 2014, or any succeeding January 1 thereafter, the
21 number of 50-seat aircraft in category A or C operations exceeds the maximum
22 permitted number, the Company will require carriers that engage in category A or C
23 operations to suspend or cease operations on a sufficient number of 50-seat aircraft
24 or 76-seat aircraft to comply with these requirements within 60 days and to remain
25 in compliance thereafter. The Company will be excused from compliance with the
26 provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does
27 not have control is the cause of such non-compliance
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1 b. 46. f. Exception one.
20 Note two: If on January 1, 2014, or any succeeding January 1 thereafter, the
21 number of 50-seat aircraft in category A or C operations exceeds the maximum
22 permitted number, the Company will require carriers that engage in category A or C
23 operations to suspend or cease operations on a sufficient number of 50-seat aircraft
24 or 76-seat aircraft to comply with these requirements within 60 days and to remain
25 in compliance thereafter. The Company will be excused from compliance with the
26 provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does
27 not have control is the cause of such non-compliance
20 Note two: If on January 1, 2014, or any succeeding January 1 thereafter, the
21 number of 50-seat aircraft in category A or C operations exceeds the maximum
22 permitted number, the Company will require carriers that engage in category A or C
23 operations to suspend or cease operations on a sufficient number of 50-seat aircraft
24 or 76-seat aircraft to comply with these requirements within 60 days and to remain
25 in compliance thereafter. The Company will be excused from compliance with the
26 provisions of this Note in the event a circumstance over which the Company does
27 not have control is the cause of such non-compliance
Yes, but SWA also knows Delta will pay a price because DCI can't fly those brand new 76 seaters that are being delivered now due to our DALPA language prohibiting it until the 717's are delivered . Our DALPA contract language is a big barrier to keep Delta from pressing SWA too hard.
Oh wait...
Carl
Oh wait...
Carl
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