Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-12-2013 | 04:18 AM
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In Hawaii, all my family on the mainland get their presents fedexed after turkeyday, via next day air, beat the USPS for shipping prices and by about a week. They all thought I was insane shipping boxes via FEDEX next day air.
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11-12-2013 | 04:33 AM
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Anyone read the memo posted today by the Rotation Construction Committee? Sounds like they are bracing us for crappy trips due to FAR Part 117. On top of that the company has already stated they will mitigate the effects of Part 117 with more reroutes. I thought the new rest rules were supposed to be a good deal for us??
11-12-2013 | 04:37 AM
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On the other hand some of the really nice, "efficient" trips such as one leg ATL-CCS, layover for 9 hours, then fly one leg CCS-ATL, blocking 8 hours, but paying 10.5 are gone. Did you see the ATL-CCS trip (ATL 7ER) for Dec 31? It has a 33 hour layover instead of 9. So you get to spend 33 hours at the airport hotel in CCS for a three day trip that now pays 13.30.
11-12-2013 | 04:38 AM
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I think also that 117 is going to flatten out international categories. Time will tell, but it is possible that Europe trips might become as "efficient" as ULH.
11-12-2013 | 05:13 AM
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11-12-2013 | 05:20 AM
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11-12-2013 | 05:25 AM
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Anyone read the memo posted today by the Rotation Construction Committee? Sounds like they are bracing us for crappy trips due to FAR Part 117. On top of that the company has already stated they will mitigate the effects of Part 117 with more reroutes. I thought the new rest rules were supposed to be a good deal for us??
11-12-2013 | 05:25 AM
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In talking to a couple of reps I have been told the company is planning on reroutes and inverse assignments to manage this until negotiations are complete. They feel that they will use this as a scare tactic as well as a way to put pressure on us, the line pilots, to get what they want out of this. So far we have not given anything on this issue.
If you are on a NB starting in January expect reroutes.
11-12-2013 | 05:27 AM
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Don't worry. They said they'll work it out over the next year or so. Stand by for another significant setback to the status quo....
A year ago my Rep (44) spent a good half an hour convincing me the FAR 117 rules were going to be, more or less, a push because of our CBA. Now I'm told to stand by for a year or so of significant loss of quality of life while ALPA figures these "new" regulations out?
Representation fail..... Again....
A year ago my Rep (44) spent a good half an hour convincing me the FAR 117 rules were going to be, more or less, a push because of our CBA. Now I'm told to stand by for a year or so of significant loss of quality of life while ALPA figures these "new" regulations out?
Representation fail..... Again....
We understand that these FAR changes, while improving fatigue mitigation, may negatively impact certain quality of life aspects of your rotations. We are influencing changes where possible in the January bid packages, but it is likely there will still be many opportunities for enhancement.
Honestly, these regulations have been pretty fluid since their proposal. Just read through the interpretations. I don't think anybody, including ALPA or the airlines, have gotten a grip on the unintended consequences in Part 117.
But please, what would you rather ALPA do? Seriously? Would you rather they sign a quid pro quo LOA? Would you rather they offer no communication up front? Would you rather they not take part in the process and stomp their feet like children?
Really, I don't mean this post to sound antagonistic. But please, tell me how DALPA failed in this case. Because, to me, when you blame them for the sun coming up in the east and setting in the west, you lose a little credibility.
11-12-2013 | 05:37 AM
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Where was FAR 117 mitigation on your wish list for C2012? Have you talked to a rep about the current negotiations on this?
In talking to a couple of reps I have been told the company is planning on reroutes and inverse assignments to manage this until negotiations are complete. They feel that they will use this as a scare tactic as well as a way to put pressure on us, the line pilots, to get what they want out of this. So far we have not given anything on this issue.
If you are on a NB starting in January expect reroutes.
In talking to a couple of reps I have been told the company is planning on reroutes and inverse assignments to manage this until negotiations are complete. They feel that they will use this as a scare tactic as well as a way to put pressure on us, the line pilots, to get what they want out of this. So far we have not given anything on this issue.
If you are on a NB starting in January expect reroutes.
Oh, forgot, we don't have any negotiating power on this...if the company wants relief then we have to give it to them or this fleeting opportunity will flitter away.
As far as the trips I look at it as I do the MD-88: It can't get any worse because I don't know anything better than what it is currently.
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