Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-11-2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco
Brielmann and Hazelton in NYC
Buzz and Ryan in cvg (both won by about the same margin against the write in)
Crane and Gaddis in SEA.
Buzz and Ryan in cvg (both won by about the same margin against the write in)
Crane and Gaddis in SEA.
11-11-2013, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Not at all. My original point, which is slowly becoming irrelevant as this thread drifts, was that voting no automatically is also no guarantee of a greater end result.
There are examples of NO votes being absolutely appropriate. The same applies to YES votes, however.
And vice versa. I'm guessing you voted no on the last agreement here at DAL. So long as you read the agreement, and concluded that it warranted a no vote, you have my respect. I just know that there are guys who will always vote no--and for that matter, others who will always vote yes--before they have read the first word of any agreement. We all need to be more accountable to ourselves than that.
There are examples of NO votes being absolutely appropriate. The same applies to YES votes, however.
And vice versa. I'm guessing you voted no on the last agreement here at DAL. So long as you read the agreement, and concluded that it warranted a no vote, you have my respect. I just know that there are guys who will always vote no--and for that matter, others who will always vote yes--before they have read the first word of any agreement. We all need to be more accountable to ourselves than that.
11-11-2013, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RonRicco
Brielmann and Hazelton in NYC
Buzz and Ryan in cvg (both won by about the same margin against the write in)
Crane and Gaddis in SEA.
Buzz and Ryan in cvg (both won by about the same margin against the write in)
Crane and Gaddis in SEA.
11-11-2013, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Interesting about SEA. Were either of the incumbents on the ballot?
11-11-2013, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
There are examples of NO votes being absolutely appropriate
11-11-2013, 11:13 AM
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Hey insurance gurus out there,
I got an email from ALPA telling me about my ALPA insurance. Here are the numbers I'm asking about:
Is this telling me I'm payin $767 a year to get just $33,750 of insurance from Guardian? That seems a totally self-insurable amount, a worthless pittance, and not worth $767 a year to me... what am I missing?
Also, ALPA loss of license, coverage $1200... what does this mean? Is the insurance payout for a loss of license just $1200? Am I really paying 50% of that, $520 a year, for just $1200 bucks?
I have all my insurance papers packed away for some renovations just now, so can't find my relevant docs... any info appreciated. I MUST be reading this wrong?
I got an email from ALPA telling me about my ALPA insurance. Here are the numbers I'm asking about:
Code:
Insurance Coverage Annual Premium Monthly Premium DLS Guardian - US $33,750 $767.40 $63.95 Group Term Life Member $50,000 $45.36 $3.78 ALPA Loss of License - VEBA $1,200 $519.96 $43.33
Also, ALPA loss of license, coverage $1200... what does this mean? Is the insurance payout for a loss of license just $1200? Am I really paying 50% of that, $520 a year, for just $1200 bucks?
I have all my insurance papers packed away for some renovations just now, so can't find my relevant docs... any info appreciated. I MUST be reading this wrong?
11-11-2013, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
...just not for DALPA.
You just want a no vote to just show the bastards. period. That is your only motive.
11-11-2013, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You actually had a legitimate argument going... until this ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You just want a no vote to just show the bastards. period. That is your only motive.
You just want a no vote to just show the bastards. period. That is your only motive.
The company is doing what it's supposed to, which is attempt to minimize our costs. ALPA does not do what it's supposed to do, which is fight tooth and nail on our behalf for every cent and every minute off.
herkflyr said there are times when a "no" vote is justified.
I simply stated that the DALPA has never done so...even when faced with a rushed product full of productivity giveaways. DALPA chose the path of least resistance, instead of leading the tough grind required to deliver the compensation we rate.
11-11-2013, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Not at all. It's not about me. It's about what's best for the pilot group, and ALPA does not deliver.
herkflyr said there are times when a "no" vote is justified.
I simply stated that the DALPA has never done so...even when faced with a rushed product full of productivity giveaways.
herkflyr said there are times when a "no" vote is justified.
I simply stated that the DALPA has never done so...even when faced with a rushed product full of productivity giveaways.
11-11-2013, 01:23 PM
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Oh yeah! Happy Veteran's Day. Thanks to all who've served, etc.!
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