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Old 11-17-2013 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Obviously memory does not serve any of us well, me included. When I think back to C2000 and the post 9/11 days, it all kind of blends together. One thing I do remember is that Leo and Fred were idiots lacking in ethics.

Anyone else remember BK-proof retirements and retention bonus for the worthy few. Retention bonuses by the way, paid to execs who left anyway.

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Yup, they were called SERP's; Special Executive Retirement Plans, and Leo, who had worked here only 5 years, was credited with an additional 20 years, so he could get a 25 year, Bankruptcy Proof, SERP.

When ever I fly over Nantucket on my way to Europe, I go back to the lav and pee in the sink, so it will rain down on Leo.
Old 11-17-2013 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
I just launched www.getflightschedules.com. It's a very basic site that does exactly what you need. Going to be adding more features in the future, but my goal is to keep it simple.
Oh YEAAAHHH! So nice! Great work! My new favorite.
Old 11-17-2013 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Oh YEAAAHHH! So nice! Great work! My new favorite.
There are 10 iPhone Apps that do the exact same thing.
Old 11-17-2013 | 09:56 PM
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Post them then... I don't think there are. We went over about 10 recently, and they all have flaws-- they do 3 days out only, or don't have all airlines like SWA, or show all codeshares as diff flights, or have multiple pages, or etc...

I've asked multiple times about good 2 month out commuter planning flight schedule sites; if you have one that fits the bill, post it please. but fyi, flighttrack, flightaware, Nextflight, crewpass, passrider, matrix, kayak, and esky all have issues making them poor.
Old 11-17-2013 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

While you're busy scratching your head over what was accomplished, you could have been on a permanent B scale without it.

Carl
What would you call NEWCO (Compass)?

B Scale, but not even on the property?
Old 11-17-2013 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
What would you call NEWCO (Compass)?

B Scale, but not even on the property?
newco didn't happen until the 2005 concessions.

It had nothing to do with the 1998 strike which was at least partly over allowing mesaba to have 36 ARJs limited to 69 seats. CRJ-200s were limited to 44 seats except for some that were coupled to the mainline aircraft count that could be 50 seats. That was undone in bankruptcy, and newco was a major sticking point in the concessions negotiations. As it turns out, the newco (compass was the final name) planes have far more range and viability than the dc-9s they replaced.
Old 11-18-2013 | 01:18 AM
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Interesting that today, according to the fleet page on Delta net that the DC-9, per-sear-mile, is the most profitable aircraft we operate. At least that's what the fleet chief pilot wrote last summer on 'the -9 iron' update.
Old 11-18-2013 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Interesting that today, according to the fleet page on Delta net that the DC-9, per-sear-mile, is the most profitable aircraft we operate. At least that's what the fleet chief pilot wrote last summer on 'the -9 iron' update.

That's probably because they have been paid off for many, many years, and all they 'cost' to fly is the gas and oil, flight crew and mx. all of which are at the bottom of the 'cost' charts.

That's the same reason I drive all my cars until they die. After they are paid off, they are pretty cheap to own, just pay for gas and oil, tires and brakes, every auto I have has over 150,000 miles on it and still going strong...and cheap, oh, and the insurance cost goes down as they age too, since they are less valuable. (1997 Tahoe, 2004 Suburban, 2007 F150).

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Old 11-18-2013 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Interesting that today, according to the fleet page on Delta net that the DC-9, per-sear-mile, is the most profitable aircraft we operate. At least that's what the fleet chief pilot wrote last summer on 'the -9 iron' update.
I think it also due to the fact that the 9 runs on coal....much cheaper than fuel.
Old 11-18-2013 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
I think it also due to the fact that the 9 runs on coal....much cheaper than fuel.

And lawn clippings too, right?

The DC 9, the original Bio Fuel Airplane!
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