Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-18-2013, 08:30 AM
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I think you missed the point. Those furloughs were not necessary. They were a tool for management to "start-up" the whip-saw/outsource machine. Through force majeure, the regional monster was born.
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06-18-2013, 08:55 AM
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Delta responds to court decision on Ex-Im financing
Appeals court agrees with Delta that Ex-Im Bank failed to consider effect of financing on U.S. airline jobs
ATLANTA, June 18, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) today issued the following statement:
"Today the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a challenge by Delta Air Lines and the Air Line Pilots Association to the Export-Import Bank's issuance of loan guarantees for the sale of 30 long-range, widebody aircraft to Air India. Delta and ALPA had argued that the subsidies would have harmful effects on U.S. airlines and their employees. The federal appeals court held that, before issuing its loan guarantees to Air India, the Bank was required by its governing statute to consider the effects that the loan guarantees would have on U.S. industries and U.S. jobs.
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"According to the court, the Bank failed to explain its exclusion of aircraft transactions from economic impact review. The court also rejected the Bank's attempt to suggest that it was immune from judicial review. The Bank now will be required to take the complaints of industry participants seriously before proceeding with potentially harmful subsidies to foreign airlines."
Delta, along with the Air Line Pilots Association, has raised concerns over the past several years about the impact of the Bank's lending on U.S. airlines and their employees. Export-Import financing for widebody international aircraft puts thousands of U.S. airline jobs at risk by subsidizing foreign carriers that compete directly with Delta and other U.S. airlines on key international routes.
Appeals court agrees with Delta that Ex-Im Bank failed to consider effect of financing on U.S. airline jobs
ATLANTA, June 18, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) today issued the following statement:
"Today the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a challenge by Delta Air Lines and the Air Line Pilots Association to the Export-Import Bank's issuance of loan guarantees for the sale of 30 long-range, widebody aircraft to Air India. Delta and ALPA had argued that the subsidies would have harmful effects on U.S. airlines and their employees. The federal appeals court held that, before issuing its loan guarantees to Air India, the Bank was required by its governing statute to consider the effects that the loan guarantees would have on U.S. industries and U.S. jobs.
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"According to the court, the Bank failed to explain its exclusion of aircraft transactions from economic impact review. The court also rejected the Bank's attempt to suggest that it was immune from judicial review. The Bank now will be required to take the complaints of industry participants seriously before proceeding with potentially harmful subsidies to foreign airlines."
Delta, along with the Air Line Pilots Association, has raised concerns over the past several years about the impact of the Bank's lending on U.S. airlines and their employees. Export-Import financing for widebody international aircraft puts thousands of U.S. airline jobs at risk by subsidizing foreign carriers that compete directly with Delta and other U.S. airlines on key international routes.
06-18-2013, 09:36 AM
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06-18-2013, 11:14 AM
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06-18-2013, 11:32 AM
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06-18-2013, 11:33 AM
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Delta responds to court decision on Ex-Im financing
Appeals court agrees with Delta that Ex-Im Bank failed to consider effect of financing on U.S. airline jobs
ATLANTA, June 18, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) today issued the following statement:
"Today the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a challenge by Delta Air Lines and the Air Line Pilots Association to the Export-Import Bank's issuance of loan guarantees for the sale of 30 long-range, widebody aircraft to Air India. Delta and ALPA had argued that the subsidies would have harmful effects on U.S. airlines and their employees. The federal appeals court held that, before issuing its loan guarantees to Air India, the Bank was required by its governing statute to consider the effects that the loan guarantees would have on U.S. industries and U.S. jobs.
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"According to the court, the Bank failed to explain its exclusion of aircraft transactions from economic impact review. The court also rejected the Bank's attempt to suggest that it was immune from judicial review. The Bank now will be required to take the complaints of industry participants seriously before proceeding with potentially harmful subsidies to foreign airlines."
Delta, along with the Air Line Pilots Association, has raised concerns over the past several years about the impact of the Bank's lending on U.S. airlines and their employees. Export-Import financing for widebody international aircraft puts thousands of U.S. airline jobs at risk by subsidizing foreign carriers that compete directly with Delta and other U.S. airlines on key international routes.
Appeals court agrees with Delta that Ex-Im Bank failed to consider effect of financing on U.S. airline jobs
ATLANTA, June 18, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) today issued the following statement:
"Today the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a challenge by Delta Air Lines and the Air Line Pilots Association to the Export-Import Bank's issuance of loan guarantees for the sale of 30 long-range, widebody aircraft to Air India. Delta and ALPA had argued that the subsidies would have harmful effects on U.S. airlines and their employees. The federal appeals court held that, before issuing its loan guarantees to Air India, the Bank was required by its governing statute to consider the effects that the loan guarantees would have on U.S. industries and U.S. jobs.
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"According to the court, the Bank failed to explain its exclusion of aircraft transactions from economic impact review. The court also rejected the Bank's attempt to suggest that it was immune from judicial review. The Bank now will be required to take the complaints of industry participants seriously before proceeding with potentially harmful subsidies to foreign airlines."
Delta, along with the Air Line Pilots Association, has raised concerns over the past several years about the impact of the Bank's lending on U.S. airlines and their employees. Export-Import financing for widebody international aircraft puts thousands of U.S. airline jobs at risk by subsidizing foreign carriers that compete directly with Delta and other U.S. airlines on key international routes.
06-18-2013, 11:38 AM
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Question for the 76 guys...how often are you weight limited SEA to PEK? Family members went, last to get on...15 open seats left, bags were pulled for weight for approx 15 pax nonrev and rev. Now I see we are doing Sea to Shanghai with the same aircraft.
06-18-2013, 11:41 AM
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DL wasn't agianst subsidies or even BA subsidies. They were only against foreign widebody subsidies to airlines that compete with US airlines. That's all they even tried to bring up. The rest of the corportist agenda is safe from DL's lobbying let alone the congress critters.
06-18-2013, 12:06 PM
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06-18-2013, 12:23 PM
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Not sure what you're asking....
I was quantifiying the previous poster's assertion that ALPA would benefit more from 40,000 "moderately" paid pilots(RJ), versus 20,000 "highly" paid pilots (mainline). I contend that is not the case.
A vast majority of the growth was at NON-ALPA DCI anyway!
ACA - gone (ALPA)
CMR - gone (ALPA)
XJT - LAX DCI terminated (ALPA)
ASA - pretty much stable, some growth (ALPA)
MESA - DCI cancelled (ALPA)
CPZ - mostly stable sized (~100 pilot growth) (ALPA)
PNCL - shrinking (ALPA)
MSA - shrunk and merged (ALPA)
SKYW- lots of growth (non union)
GOJET- new DCI. (Non-ALPA)
CHQ - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
shuttle Amer. - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
I was quantifiying the previous poster's assertion that ALPA would benefit more from 40,000 "moderately" paid pilots(RJ), versus 20,000 "highly" paid pilots (mainline). I contend that is not the case.
A vast majority of the growth was at NON-ALPA DCI anyway!
ACA - gone (ALPA)
CMR - gone (ALPA)
XJT - LAX DCI terminated (ALPA)
ASA - pretty much stable, some growth (ALPA)
MESA - DCI cancelled (ALPA)
CPZ - mostly stable sized (~100 pilot growth) (ALPA)
PNCL - shrinking (ALPA)
MSA - shrunk and merged (ALPA)
SKYW- lots of growth (non union)
GOJET- new DCI. (Non-ALPA)
CHQ - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
shuttle Amer. - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
Long term the RJ has been a problem for everyone except the manufacturers.
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