I like this post because it outlines the effect of ALPA's strategic mismanagement.

First realize that ALPA National is run by the majors. We are not going to see an Air Wisconsin pilot become president of ALPA. In effect, the Delta MEC has run ALPA on the Delta property since the late 1990's.

Outsourcing has helped reach agreements on Delta contracts. The effect has been harmful to ALPA's receipts.

Arguably, Lee Moak has been less harmful than his predecessors. Compass remained ALPA and so has Endeavor. However, from a pure union perspective ALPA would have benefitted most from this flying being done at Delta Air Lines.

The tough truth is that ALPA has limited bargaining leverage under the RLA and falling on one's sword has not worked. ALPA has to prioritize. ALPA's priorities have some times fallen to getting 5% for the whole list rather than hold the line on scope. Many 2 to 5 year to upgrade Captains see scope solely as a "junior issue."

I believe as these Captains retire and are replaced with pilots from the regionals who understand scope, ALPA will change as the Delta MEC changes.

I think the Delta MEC is moving the right direction (although they can't bring themselves to disagree with Lee Moak on the Pinnacle concession).

Strategically, the Delta scope sales which have been copied throughout our industry have caused real, lasting, potentially fatal harm to our union. To fix things, I believe we begin here.

 

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I guess I am not doing a good job getting my point across. DAL is still a good job - a very good job, and we are being told that "Hold on, things will get better soon." But we have been hearing that for years.

My point is that people now leave Delta for other job/careers. In the past that virtually never happened, but that is no longer the case.

Hopefully we will start hiring soon and a bunch of regional guys will be in my position. I can't think of anything that would improve the morale at DAL more than some brand new, enthusiastic, and highly motivated new hire pilots at DAL - hopefully you will be among them soon.

Scoop

 

I'm thinking a HVC on a 15 minute turn from A1 to F14 gets a pretty good test drive dodging MD88's and baggage carts from ramps 1 to 6.

 

[QUOTE=Scoop;1430160]Scoop,

I get your point.

 

I guess. Then he sits on the A/C for 45 minutes (bonus: ground air is pumping 88 degrees) while the crew for his flight packs into the third train that finally has space as they do their planned plane change from A1 to F14.

 

Big deal, we are supposed to announce a wide body order in august of 10 JETS.

..so goes the rumor anyway lol

 

Shiz,

I think you missed the point. Those furloughs were not necessary. They were a tool for management to "start-up" the whip-saw/outsource machine. Through force majeure, the regional monster was born.

TEN

 

Delta responds to court decision on Ex-Im financing
Appeals court agrees with Delta that Ex-Im Bank failed to consider effect of financing on U.S. airline jobs

ATLANTA, June 18, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) today issued the following statement:
"Today the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a challenge by Delta Air Lines and the Air Line Pilots Association to the Export-Import Bank's issuance of loan guarantees for the sale of 30 long-range, widebody aircraft to Air India. Delta and ALPA had argued that the subsidies would have harmful effects on U.S. airlines and their employees. The federal appeals court held that, before issuing its loan guarantees to Air India, the Bank was required by its governing statute to consider the effects that the loan guarantees would have on U.S. industries and U.S. jobs.
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"According to the court, the Bank failed to explain its exclusion of aircraft transactions from economic impact review. The court also rejected the Bank's attempt to suggest that it was immune from judicial review. The Bank now will be required to take the complaints of industry participants seriously before proceeding with potentially harmful subsidies to foreign airlines."
Delta, along with the Air Line Pilots Association, has raised concerns over the past several years about the impact of the Bank's lending on U.S. airlines and their employees. Export-Import financing for widebody international aircraft puts thousands of U.S. airline jobs at risk by subsidizing foreign carriers that compete directly with Delta and other U.S. airlines on key international routes.

 

I went on a tangent. I like tangents. The best part of not bring able to focus on one thing is th

 

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