Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I would say this is valid information.
Not sure what you're asking....
I was quantifiying the previous poster's assertion that ALPA would benefit more from 40,000 "moderately" paid pilots(RJ), versus 20,000 "highly" paid pilots (mainline). I contend that is not the case.
A vast majority of the growth was at NON-ALPA DCI anyway!
ACA - gone (ALPA)
CMR - gone (ALPA)
XJT - LAX DCI terminated (ALPA)
ASA - pretty much stable, some growth (ALPA)
MESA - DCI cancelled (ALPA)
CPZ - mostly stable sized (~100 pilot growth) (ALPA)
PNCL - shrinking (ALPA)
MSA - shrunk and merged (ALPA)
SKYW- lots of growth (non union)
GOJET- new DCI. (Non-ALPA)
CHQ - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
shuttle Amer. - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
I was quantifiying the previous poster's assertion that ALPA would benefit more from 40,000 "moderately" paid pilots(RJ), versus 20,000 "highly" paid pilots (mainline). I contend that is not the case.
A vast majority of the growth was at NON-ALPA DCI anyway!
ACA - gone (ALPA)
CMR - gone (ALPA)
XJT - LAX DCI terminated (ALPA)
ASA - pretty much stable, some growth (ALPA)
MESA - DCI cancelled (ALPA)
CPZ - mostly stable sized (~100 pilot growth) (ALPA)
PNCL - shrinking (ALPA)
MSA - shrunk and merged (ALPA)
SKYW- lots of growth (non union)
GOJET- new DCI. (Non-ALPA)
CHQ - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
shuttle Amer. - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
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If you're making the jump because of a small base, then that's probably not such a great trade, since we all know those ebb and flow.
It's a gamble, to be sure.
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When does scheduling usually assign short calls, in the morning or a little before 3? It's been a while.
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[QUOTE=Avgwhitemale;1430001]I just received an email from two of my 2010 classmates. Both were hired by UAL. One is at Indoc and the other is getting ready to start. That makes 6 guys from my class who left DAL. 2 - UAL 2 - FDX and 2 - SWA
Wow....[/
My apologies as I completely misinterpreted this post as being a very recent occurence. When I was a new hire we had a guy in another class leave for SWA and it was unprecedented back then as DAL was on the Forbes list of best company's to work for. We also had furloughees in the early 90's who got hired at FDX and UPS who subsequently quit those jobs to get recalled at DAL in 1996. Look how that decision has turned out for them.
Wow....[/
My apologies as I completely misinterpreted this post as being a very recent occurence. When I was a new hire we had a guy in another class leave for SWA and it was unprecedented back then as DAL was on the Forbes list of best company's to work for. We also had furloughees in the early 90's who got hired at FDX and UPS who subsequently quit those jobs to get recalled at DAL in 1996. Look how that decision has turned out for them.
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DALAD,
It was unprecedented in the 90s but that precedent had been set just after 9-11. I was hired in early 2000 and know 5 people from my time-frame who quit DAL for other opportunities - actually 6 who left but 1 returned:
3 left to fly corporate.
2 left for FDX and one since quit FDX to return to DAL for personal reasons.
1 left to go to JetBlu.
The days of DAL being the "Dream career" are gone. For those who have been in CAPT seats during the current stagnation it is probably not too bad, but for the current 15 year, possibly looking at 20 year FO - not so much.
It is still a good job but but it will never be the same. How many post 9-11 hires have Cessnas or Pipers compared to DAL Pilots in the 1980s or 1990s? It seems many DAL Pilots spend more time working on their part time jobs or "Plan B" than with their "toys."
DAL today is not the DAL of old.
Scoop
I just received an email from two of my 2010 classmates. Both were hired by UAL. One is at Indoc and the other is getting ready to start. That makes 6 guys from my class who left DAL. 2 - UAL 2 - FDX and 2 - SWA
Wow....[/
My apologies as I completely misinterpreted this post as being a very recent occurence. When I was a new hire we had a guy in another class leave for SWA and it was unprecedented back then as DAL was on the Forbes list of best company's to work for. We also had furloughees in the early 90's who got hired at FDX and UPS who subsequently quit those jobs to get recalled at DAL in 1996. Look how that decision has turned out for them.
Wow....[/
My apologies as I completely misinterpreted this post as being a very recent occurence. When I was a new hire we had a guy in another class leave for SWA and it was unprecedented back then as DAL was on the Forbes list of best company's to work for. We also had furloughees in the early 90's who got hired at FDX and UPS who subsequently quit those jobs to get recalled at DAL in 1996. Look how that decision has turned out for them.
DALAD,
It was unprecedented in the 90s but that precedent had been set just after 9-11. I was hired in early 2000 and know 5 people from my time-frame who quit DAL for other opportunities - actually 6 who left but 1 returned:
3 left to fly corporate.
2 left for FDX and one since quit FDX to return to DAL for personal reasons.
1 left to go to JetBlu.
The days of DAL being the "Dream career" are gone. For those who have been in CAPT seats during the current stagnation it is probably not too bad, but for the current 15 year, possibly looking at 20 year FO - not so much.
It is still a good job but but it will never be the same. How many post 9-11 hires have Cessnas or Pipers compared to DAL Pilots in the 1980s or 1990s? It seems many DAL Pilots spend more time working on their part time jobs or "Plan B" than with their "toys."
DAL today is not the DAL of old.
Scoop
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