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Old 11-16-2013 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Now Carl,

You know that I generally agree with most of your opinions. But, I have to check you on this one.

From what I can remember in my shrink interview, he asked mostly about my family, their views about me leaving the military and how they felt about me working for the airlines. I can't remember any questions about unions.

Now, my buddy said the first question asked was "How do you feel about your sisters?"

His response was "I love them, but I don't want to sleep with them."

The shrink responded "That's all I've got."

He was hired.

If you had ever seen his sisters, you wouldn't want to sleep with them either.
That's cool. But my buds who've told me about their experience with Janus had similar comments. However, most of my buds are pretty old dudes.

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Old 11-16-2013 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Most of us have lives and don't have time to read all of your posts
You don't have to read them all. Any post of mine would have shown you I don't lump all fDAL pilots together.

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Old 11-16-2013 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
No, I've got the rocking chair shrink's opinion. Have a number of friends who interviewed with him. They tell me of this part of the interview:

Shrink: What are your thoughts regarding unions?

Pilot: We didn't have them in the military so I'm no expert, but I don't understand the concept of striking.


Carl
I was asked that exact same question by the HR rep in my interview at NWA.
Old 11-16-2013 | 06:16 AM
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You don't have to read them all. Any post of mine would have shown you I don't lump all fDAL pilots together.
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Geezuz Carl,

Can you give all of this DPA/ALPA/D-ALPA/pmNWA/pmDAL stuff a rest?

You know, as well as everyone else, that if the DPA was able to call for a vote, and CONFIDENT the vote would pass, that they would've done so by now.

This 'drive' for an independent union has been 'divisive' for this pilot group for almost three years. The 'divisiveness' has been a black cloud over our group for one Section 6 negotiation, & has the potential to be lingering over the heads of our entire MERGED (I don't even F'n know why we're still talking pmNWA/pmDAL BULL$h!t) pilot group during contract openers in March '14.

DPA - It is not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It isn't going to happen. (Appalachian American speak) IT'S AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!

Give it up. I KNOW you have better things to do on your days off, or on an extended layover in NRT than to be staring at a keyboard for hours on end, rebutting someone's rebuttal. It just gets old, doesn't it?

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Old 11-16-2013 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil

Now, my buddy said the first question asked was "How do you feel about your sisters?"

His response was "I love them, but I don't want to sleep with them."

The shrink responded "That's all I've got."
Ha! I had a similar experience. The shrink asked me if my fiancee reminded me of my mom. I said "absolutely. I'll leave it up to you to figure out what that means." Shrink laughed and sent me on my way.

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Old 11-16-2013 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're one of the poster children for this tsquare. You would never strike mother Delta under any circumstances...exactly what the rocking chair dude was screening for. You go further to say that even talk of a strike is stupid. Then you finish by continually defending Delta pilots trying only for small gains, then defending no net gains as the best we could get.

So I'll say again, it still surprises me that there are such a high percentage of tsquares among fDAL pilots. It's a culture I just don't understand. I know I'm not alone. It's probably the non-union culture at Delta coming through whereby the only union that can survive here is a union that only pretends to be a union.

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Carl,

Yup. I can read. Your just being a jerk. I had a 2 hour one on one conversation with Tim Caplinger a few months back. From my previous experience as a union organizer I warned him about loud mouth Internet know it alls. You in particular.

You stereotyped the fdal group as a bunch of tsquares. I see that as a compliment. Tsquare can gather hot cheerleaders together at his command. I'm going to stereotype the north guys now. They, for the most part, are a wonderful group of hard working and professional individuals. Like all groups though, a few outspoken individuals can ruin a good thing.
Old 11-16-2013 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
If you had actually read any of my posts, you'd see I did not lump all fDAL guys into one basket.

Carl
Condescending you are... Ok, replace the word "all" with "high percentage".
Old 11-16-2013 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Geezuz Carl,

Can you give all of this DPA/ALPA/D-ALPA/pmNWA/pmDAL stuff a rest?

You know, as well as everyone else, that if the DPA was able to call for a vote, and CONFIDENT the vote would pass, that they would've done so by now.

This 'drive' for an independent union has been 'divisive' for this pilot group for almost three years. The 'divisiveness' has been a black cloud over our group for one Section 6 negotiation, & has the potential to be lingering over the heads of our entire MERGED (I don't even F'n know why we're still talking pmNWA/pmDAL BULL$h!t) pilot group during contract openers in March '14.

DPA - It is not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It isn't going to happen. (Appalachian American speak) IT'S AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!

Give it up. I KNOW you have better things to do on your days off, or on an extended layover in NRT than to be staring at a keyboard for hours on end, rebutting someone's rebuttal. It just gets old, doesn't it?

GJ
Emotional tirades are unconvincing.

Carl
Old 11-16-2013 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Carl, you kind of hit the nail on the head for me...as a fDAL guy I came in having been anti-union in mindset since birth. But during my first two weeks on property we go over to the DALPA building ... But isn't my union supposed to be fighting to improve our contract for me and my fellow pilots? Sure doesn't seem like they're working to get our pay to where MOST of us think it should be. Why not more talk about where our pay should be?
Sums up my background and thoughts perfectly, GG.

I simply can't fathom why "our" "union" keeps acting as the company's spokesman for tamping down our wages.

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Old 11-16-2013 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Carl,

Yup. I can read. Your just being a jerk. I had a 2 hour one on one conversation with Tim Caplinger a few months back. From my previous experience as a union organizer I warned him about loud mouth Internet know it alls. You in particular.
I know you can read, you're just choosing not to. You're trying to shut someone up by putting words in their mouths and going off on emotional tantrums. You ain't shuttin me up ace, so relax.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot
You stereotyped the fdal group as a bunch of tsquares.
Again, I did no such thing. No matter how much you try to mischaracterize, you ain't shoutin me down.

Carl
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