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Old 04-01-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
and why would you? you got yours.
Well another typical idiotic post showing that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. So far you are 2 for 2 today. Too bad you aren't playing baseball. But just to enlighten you, I am sitting short call as I write this. Reserve has nothing to do with overall seniority, Einstein. While I sit reserve by choice for the most part, it hasn't been all that bad. I guess they just know who you are and try to screw you at every opportunity. Sucks to be you....
Old 04-01-2014 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Scope is better. Lots better than it was pre 2012.
i disagree. i think the economics of outsourcing with 50 seaters became untenable and they asked for a lifeline (a near 30% increase in larger more economical/profitable RJs) and we agreed.

We should never help make outsourcing more profitable... but lets hope even the CR9 equation turns out to not work AND we refuse any more lifelines next time around.
Old 04-01-2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You seriously need to let that go. It is irrelevant to any discussion going forward. Besides, dALPA doesn't control that. I guess the question is who you want to direct your anger at with respect to that line...
Ah, so any positives that have happened are a result of C2012, but negatives were something else.
Old 04-01-2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
What is the long call reserve mess? Seriously, I have no idea of the problem
Originally Posted by tsquare
I am sitting short call as I write this. Reserve has nothing to do with overall seniority,. While I sit reserve by choice for the most part, it hasn't been all that bad...

Are you sitting reserve under the contract or under Dickson's memo?
When you are on long call will you acknowledge every assignment within 2 hours as Dickson requires in his decree?
(don't tell me. let me guess )

Simply put => can you turn your phone off and get 8 hours sleep on long call?
Contract says yes. Dickson says no.

And that is the problem.
Old 04-01-2014 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
i disagree. i think the economics of outsourcing with 50 seaters became untenable and they asked for a lifeline (a near 30% increase in larger more economical/profitable RJs) and we agreed.

We should never help make outsourcing more profitable... but lets hope even the CR9 equation turns out to not work AND we refuse any more lifelines next time around.
There is much truth in that sentiment. It is also a fact that the 50 seaters are going away faster than originally planned. That being said, the unknown in the equation is really our difference of opinion on the issue, and that unknown is how long would it have taken us to achieve a contract, and would that contract have been better than the one we had. You cannot answer that any more than I can. I made my decision based on the information I had at the time, and for the most part, if presented the same information today, I would make the same decision. You get all wrapped around the axle about the bigger RJs, and that is fine, but those wouldn't have been coming to mainline in C12 unless it turned into C16 or something like that. And now that we have the results of the UAL and AAL contracts, it most certainly wouldn't have beien any better any sooner. We exchange openers in less than a year. None of the other players will be doing anything like that, and all of them have inferior contracts to ours. Who are we going to pattern off of? That was a bit of sidetrack, but I think you get my point. In the next contract.... I do not want to do ANY negotiating for scope. None.. nada... because it is a self correcting problem going forward. Why pay for something you are gonna get anyway.

Your turn.
Old 04-01-2014 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Are you sitting reserve under the contract or under Dickson's memo?
When you are on long call will you acknowledge every assignment within 2 hours as Dickson requires in his decree?
(don't tell me. let me guess )

Simply put => can you turn your phone off and get 8 hours sleep on long call?
Contract says yes. Dickson says no.

And that is the problem.
Simple is good. If I get called at 2am for a trip, it had better be at least 8 (or so) hours from then. If not... I guess I won't make it.
Old 04-01-2014 | 01:08 PM
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Old 04-01-2014 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Well another typical idiotic post showing that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. So far you are 2 for 2 today. Too bad you aren't playing baseball. But just to enlighten you, I am sitting short call as I write this. Reserve has nothing to do with overall seniority, Einstein. While I sit reserve by choice for the most part, it hasn't been all that bad. I guess they just know who you are and try to screw you at every opportunity. Sucks to be you....
Don't worry, purple believes in what he writes. He has apps in everywhere and will soon be moving on from terrible Delta to greener pastures.
Old 04-01-2014 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Ah, so any positives that have happened are a result of C2012, but negatives were something else.
I don't know how you got that from my post. I am just saying that our contract is not responsible... good or bad... for everything that affects us. Our lives simply aren't that black and white. Some on here want to blame dALPA for every ill that confronts us even if they have nothing to do with it. Frankly, I find that kind of thinking very shallow. For example: dALPA doesn't buy airplanes, but they do set the rates for operation of any equipment that management buys. Then, guys blame dALPA because our career earnings are not what many expected. Yes, it is my windmill, but is is apropos here. There are other examples. My point is that much of the anger is directed at the wrong target. YMMV.
Old 04-01-2014 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Don't worry, purple believes in what he writes. He has apps in everywhere and will soon be moving on from terrible Delta to greener pastures.

I certainly hope so. I know I wouldn't want to work anywhere where I was so miserable and so mistreated....
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