Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-18-2013 | 07:26 PM
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I think I just flew with a buddy of yours. Great guy. Are your initials RB?
If so, shoot me a note.
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11-18-2013 | 07:26 PM
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By the way if it matters this is one fence sitter you have pushed back over to the ALPA side.
11-18-2013 | 07:28 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
No, we just knew that you and the other hard core ALPA sycophants would view it that way. But we don't stop investigating things because hard core ALPA sycophants display their fake, selective and partisan outrage.
First reporters are being offered immunity, if they publicly apologize. Maybe they'll do that after some soul searching.
Carl
First reporters are being offered immunity, if they publicly apologize. Maybe they'll do that after some soul searching.
Carl
and just because I figured you would like it ....
11-18-2013 | 07:37 PM
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This is an excerpt from the last Crew Van News on 11/15. Bolded part is my highlight:
Ignoring the dramatic closing quote, it seems that Tim already forgot what he wrote last Friday. The entire piece tries to paint the picture that we should be forgiving of this individual. He even finishes with a little foreshadowing that "it depends on whether or not we can resolve the situation peacefully and ensure it doesn't happen again."
I guess an alleged personal call wasn't enough to satisfy Tim's bloodlust for ALPA. He demanded a public shaming instead, and has now chosen to put the Feds "on the case."
Is that about right Carl? Just want to make sure I'm getting this correctly.
Ignoring the dramatic closing quote, it seems that Tim already forgot what he wrote last Friday. The entire piece tries to paint the picture that we should be forgiving of this individual. He even finishes with a little foreshadowing that "it depends on whether or not we can resolve the situation peacefully and ensure it doesn't happen again."
I guess an alleged personal call wasn't enough to satisfy Tim's bloodlust for ALPA. He demanded a public shaming instead, and has now chosen to put the Feds "on the case."
Is that about right Carl? Just want to make sure I'm getting this correctly.
The undecideds will look at this and make their own call. I feel very good about it.
Carl
11-18-2013 | 07:42 PM
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You guys' political deafness is stunning. Please keep it up. Please.
Only the most hard core ALPA sycophant would even try to spin this as a DPA crime. You guys keep forgetting that this will be won or lost by the currently undecided. My prediction is that the undecided are face palming right now at the embarrassing spin of trying to blame the victim. Keep it up boys. You're geniuses.
Carl
Only the most hard core ALPA sycophant would even try to spin this as a DPA crime. You guys keep forgetting that this will be won or lost by the currently undecided. My prediction is that the undecided are face palming right now at the embarrassing spin of trying to blame the victim. Keep it up boys. You're geniuses.
Carl
ITEM 2: ALPA Attack Package
This attack packet probably cost around $20 each of your dues dollars to produce. It included a credit card thumb drive that contains unknown files that could have a variety of intents. The heart of the package is an MEC update that is chock full of misinformation. As this information is being put directly into the hands of many line pilots, DPA is compelled to answer the claims ALPA made. We have provided the update below with a DPA Rebuttal inserted after EVERY ALPA claim that you will find both informative and useful. We recommend you print out the 12 page document and carry it with you to fight the incorrect information ALPA is spreading.
This attack packet probably cost around $20 each of your dues dollars to produce. It included a credit card thumb drive that contains unknown files that could have a variety of intents. The heart of the package is an MEC update that is chock full of misinformation. As this information is being put directly into the hands of many line pilots, DPA is compelled to answer the claims ALPA made. We have provided the update below with a DPA Rebuttal inserted after EVERY ALPA claim that you will find both informative and useful. We recommend you print out the 12 page document and carry it with you to fight the incorrect information ALPA is spreading.
Back to the packet though - The majority of that cost is the flash card that includes a lot of good information that our pilots will need going forward - namely the new Scheduling Reference Handbook (formerly known as When Scheduling Calls) that will be extremely useful on January 1st when the new 117 rules take effect.
I would just be pulling a Tim and guessing here, but I doubt the $4 flash card is a whole lot more expensive than the printing/shipping/v-file stuffing/dead trees associated with distributing hard copies of all of the numerous documents that were included on the drive. Some might call this getting with the times. The "ALPA Attack Packet" is actually part of a secret plan (by the secret police) to provide current/helpful information to the Delta pilots so we can all do our part to ensure the PWA is being followed.
NEXT:
The second bolded sentence is a thinly veiled insinuation (you like to refer to this sort of thing as spin) that ALPA might be placing some sinister files on the drive to do.....what exactly???
Is this the type of spin you're talking about? Maybe they contracted with the "hacker" to create a super worm to: [Letyourimaginationrunwild] Insert your favorite conspiracy theory here [/Letyourimaginationrunwild]
Like I said GMAFB
11-18-2013 | 07:45 PM
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11-18-2013 | 07:49 PM
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Nah, you can do both. Is the question too hard for you?
Here it is again:
Carl
Here it is again:
Simple question Bar. What if I as a DPA supporter wanted to help my cause along by hacking into ALPA national's website, redirect it to a fake site that denigrated ALPA, then disconnected the funding link to the ALPA PAC. Would you argue to ALPA that they shouldn't investigate it because old Carl might get in legal trouble?
Carl
11-18-2013 | 07:58 PM
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Yes Carl it is much better to start off posts by calling people names. It's good though it lets you deflect form answering questions especially the ones that don't make you or DPA look so good.
By the way if it matters this is one fence sitter you have pushed back over to the ALPA side.
By the way if it matters this is one fence sitter you have pushed back over to the ALPA side.
Carl
11-18-2013 | 08:06 PM
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I'm also not impressed that the DPA is pursuing a Delta pilot. Maybe professional standards is a committee that will cease to exist under DPA. Going after one of our own, regardless of the sin, is unacceptable. The ultimatum of going public or else is unnecessary theatrics. Won't surprise me at all if this "hacker" was hatched in the same part of Tampa that brought us the abortion letter. 
GMAFB.
GMAFB.If for argument sake you are assuming the DPA account of events to be true, why ignore the part where Tim asked the individual to identify himself and apologize?
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