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Old 11-18-2013 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Apparently we've crossed over into Alex Jones' territory with the latest DPA update.

Not an ALPA supporter by any stretch, but I have a hard time finding this credible:
Well, it's always your choice to decide credibility. But this is very close to what I'm hearing. DPA was able to track it back to a time and place that implicated a very small number of people. The people involved in the hacking found out about how close DPA was getting in their investigation, and realized the FBI would be able to easily take it the rest of the way. The people involved in the hacking then called DPA to try and reach a deal not to take this investigation any further. So far, a public apology is something the people involved won't do.

Everyone will have to make their own call on credibility.

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Old 11-18-2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(1) If you knew taking this action would be viewed as inappropriate, why did you do it?

(2) Do you suggest we report violations we observe pilots making to that other enforcement agency, the FAA? Hey, first reporters often get immunity ... must be great to protect your career the DPA way.

(3) There is absolutely no evidence, or even credible suggestion, that anyone was working for the Delta Pilot Network or Pilot 2 Pilot (which as far as I know are the so called "Special Committee")
It's actually the "secret police"
Old 11-18-2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
It's actually the "secret police"



Secret, like Victoria's ?
Old 11-18-2013 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Everyone will have to make their own call on credibility.

Carl
But if they call Tim Caplinger, they had better use a pay phone in a town they've never been to.
Old 11-18-2013 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Well, it's always your choice to decide credibility. But this is very close to what I'm hearing. DPA was able to track it back to a time and place that implicated a very small number of people. The people involved in the hacking found out about how close DPA was getting in their investigation, and realized the FBI would be able to easily take it the rest of the way. The people involved in the hacking then called DPA to try and reach a deal not to take this investigation any further. So far, a public apology is something the people involved won't do.

Everyone will have to make their own call on credibility.

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So let me get this straight DPA has this down to a few pilots instead of reaching out to these pilots they turn it over to the FBI. How about a phone call to these guys with a simple cease and desist from TC or one of the other leaders. If you were able to narrow it down to pilots on layovers in ATL you could surely figure out how to reach them. A simple phone call stating that if this continues they will turn this over to the authorities would have stopped this.

Funny thing is TC had his but saved by the same organization he now vilifies. Can't wait to see how DPA handles a pilot who gets in trouble with management.
Old 11-18-2013 | 06:55 PM
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When the FBI tracks down who actually did this - probably a group of 14-year old boys at a slumber party - the "scourge" calling themselves DPA need to make a public apology to all Delta pilots & ALPA.

Why this organization, who makes unfounded accusations, has 5000 cards is beyond me?
Old 11-18-2013 | 06:56 PM
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What makes me mad is the idea of an Atlanta layover ... What the Hell?

We have a pilot base in Atlanta! Who's stealing our flyin' ? You Yankees need to stay where you belong.

Old 11-18-2013 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
I'm also not impressed that the DPA is pursuing a Delta pilot. Maybe professional standards is a committee that will cease to exist under DPA. Going after one of our own, regardless of the sin, is unacceptable. The ultimatum of going public or else is unnecessary theatrics. Won't surprise me at all if this "hacker" was hatched in the same part of Tampa that brought us the abortion letter. GMAFB.
You guys' political deafness is stunning. Please keep it up. Please.

Only the most hard core ALPA sycophant would even try to spin this as a DPA crime. You guys keep forgetting that this will be won or lost by the currently undecided. My prediction is that the undecided are face palming right now at the embarrassing spin of trying to blame the victim. Keep it up boys. You're geniuses.

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Old 11-18-2013 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
What makes me mad is the idea of an Atlanta layover ... What the Hell?

We have a pilot base in Atlanta! Who's stealing our flyin' ? You Yankees need to stay where you belong.

The problem is I will never learn to speak Dixie if you take away my ATL layovers.
Old 11-18-2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
When the FBI tracks down who actually did this ...
I'm sure it is the top priority of the FBI, they don't have anything else to do.

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The FBI’s national security mission is to lead and coordinate intelligence efforts that drive actions to protect the United States.

Our goal is to develop a comprehensive understanding of the threats and penetrate national and transnational networks that have a desire and capability to harm us. Such networks include: terrorist organizations, foreign intelligence services, those that seek to proliferate weapons of mass destruction, and criminal enterprises.

In order to be successful, we must understand the threat, continue to integrate our intelligence and law enforcement capabilities in every FBI operational program, and continue to expand our contribution to the Intelligence Community knowledge base.

Because national security and criminal threats are often intertwined, our ability to integrate intelligence and investigations makes us uniquely situated to address our nation’s threats and vulnerabilities.
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