Well with this they will get their wide body CA seat. Nothing that you can do to change that. Even a fence will not stop it.

As they should. 1986 was a long time ago.
fbh

Heyas ACL,

Any GB guy who wants a WB seat can get it these days. The fences are long gone.

Nu

So you're saying that if a senior Rebublic guy on the A320 wants to fly the whale, he can displace a more junior guy, or does he have to wait for the more junior, younger guy to leave before he gets the seat? The fences may be gone, but the damage is done if the only way to hold the seat is to wait for a younger guy to retire.

Heyas JDMJ,

Last time I checked, it's '08, and we're all Blue. If a position is available, then the SENIOR pilot gets it.

With that said, had the 787 been on time, it wouldn't have been called the "Greenliner" for nothing.

Nu

I fully understand that, but when the position won't be available until after you retire, you are de facto fenced out. By merging, they are able to bid a huge amount of additional airframes. Plus, if Delta establishes an ATL category for the whales, then they get to bid in front of the current whale drivers.

Any word on the August AE?

From some one in the know.

IF it is going to happen the number are this.
60 CA and FO ATL 777 positions. Backfill is still up in the air.

Nu,
Well considering the 787 is coming after the merger it is irrelevant. I think JDMJ is correct. You guys may in fact be all blue, but what good is it if there are no "blue" seats to bid into? Its kind of a bummer to have 20 years of NWA screwed up seniority battles corrected on the backs of the Delta pilot group. And to further amplify the previous statement I mean that by the time the senior narrow body catains can successfully bid onto big equipment, they will be bidding on DAL aircraft against DAL pilots who did not benefit from the 20 years fences that screwed them.


Scoop

The Redbook/Greenbook/Bluebook died in 2006. Fences have long since been down. I find myself edumacating a number of the captains that I fly with on this. People at NWA hold what their seniority can hold now. Doesn't change the fact that the RB/GB guys still hate each other. :) It wouldn't be NWA if there weren't something to hate.