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tsquare 08-08-2008 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 434713)
I fully understand that, but when the position won't be available until after you retire, you are de facto fenced out. By merging, they are able to bid a huge amount of additional airframes. Plus, if Delta establishes an ATL category for the whales, then they get to bid in front of the current whale drivers.

From what I have heard... all conjecture of course... The whales will be flying thru Hooterville... not based there. So the whale drivers get to burn up some of their time transiting to-from ATL... Welcome to Delta boys...

Xray678 08-08-2008 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 440803)
The Redbook/Greenbook/Bluebook died in 2006. Fences have long since been down. I find myself edumacating a number of the captains that I fly with on this. People at NWA hold what their seniority can hold now. Doesn't change the fact that the RB/GB guys still hate each other. :) It wouldn't be NWA if there weren't something to hate.


So you are telling me that every former Republic pilot who wants to be in a whale or a 330 is in one?

KC10 FATboy 08-08-2008 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 440923)
So you are telling me that every former Republic pilot who wants to be in a whale or a 330 is in one?

No, because you can't displace someone if they are in category. They can bid into it as holes open up and if their seniority can hold it.

The reality is, the 747s are gone in a few years anyhow.

-Fatty

SomedayRJ 08-08-2008 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 440905)
From what I have heard... all conjecture of course... The whales will be flying thru Hooterville... not based there. So the whale drivers get to burn up some of their time transiting to-from ATL... Welcome to Delta boys...

No trip is complete unless you see ATL at least once.

Justdoinmyjob 08-08-2008 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 440932)
No, because you can't displace someone if they are in category. They can bid into it as holes open up and if their seniority can hold it.

My point exactly. If they cannot displace anyone, yet must wait for an opening in the category, a category manned by junior people in seniority, then there is the conundrum.

Scoop 08-08-2008 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 440966)
My point exactly. If they cannot displace anyone, yet must wait for an opening in the category, a category manned by junior people in seniority, then there is the conundrum.

Its not a fence - as we have been told numerous times the fences came down - more like an invisible forcefield. For some reason the senior Republic guys cant seem to penetrate the forcefield.

"So thats what an invisible wall looks like." Name the movie.:)

Scoop

Xray678 08-08-2008 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 440932)
No, because you can't displace someone if they are in category. They can bid into it as holes open up and if their seniority can hold it.

That is my whole point. Though the fences are down, you (not you personally) can't say that all the red/green/blue book pilots are in a category their seniority can hold.

This will be a huge issue in the SLI.

Spaceman Spliff 08-08-2008 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 441057)
Its not a fence - as we have been told numerous times the fences came down - more like an invisible forcefield. For some reason the senior Republic guys cant seem to penetrate the forcefield.

"So thats what an invisible wall looks like." Name the movie.:)

Scoop

Time Bandits.

If I'm going to get raped as hard as NWA guys expect, I want more money.

With oil plummeting...I bet the voting hotline is going to crash this weekend with DAL guys calling to change their votes to "NO." And that's only because there's not a choice for "HELL NO."

ERJ135 08-08-2008 02:29 PM

Here is a question. I understand DAL is a fairly young pilot group with little retirements in the near future. How old is the NWA pilot group? If there is a high number of retirements would that offset some the seniority problems native delta guys would have in the next few years.

Superpilot92 08-08-2008 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ135 (Post 441199)
Here is a question. I understand DAL is a fairly young pilot group with little retirements in the near future. How old is the NWA pilot group? If there is a high number of retirements would that offset some the seniority problems native delta guys would have in the next few years.

Average Age of the NWA pilot group is roughly 53-54 years old. fwiw


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