Originally Posted by formerdal
(Post 446685)
Once the list is merged, as aircraft are moved to different bases pilots will get displaced off those aircraft. They may then bid what their seniority will hold, anyone junior to them on their new equipment moves backwards one number at a time. If you are the bottom guy you will then be dispaleced.
So yes, a NWA pilot can displace you off the ER in NYC. Are you sure? Then the displacement would never end. I'm preety sure that once you get displaced you bid what your seniority can hold but where the company has slots. Otherwise it would be never ending displacements or furloughs. Just a quess. Not sure myself. |
Quite true.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 446718)
Quite true.
:confused: |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 446713)
SEA on the NWA side will be senior and stay senior. There are are large number of commuting pilots from NWA and Delta living in the NE. They will fill openings in Seattle as they become available. LAX and ATL will become more senior as NWA pilots move into those bases. There are a large number of NWA pilots in the SE and in CA. MSP and DET will see a decrease in seniority and probably become the new hire bases as senior pilots move out and vacancies occur. NYC is already very junior and will remain junior. There are NWA pilots in the NE but not a huge number to impact the base.
No matter how the list comes together, I hope there are a minimum of five year fences on the bases. |
Are you sure that you want it on bases or equipment?
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 446736)
Are you sure that you want it on bases or equipment?
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Originally Posted by Xray678
(Post 446724)
However, a DL pilot who stays at a DL base faces the prospect of very little movement for the next 5-10 years as NW pilots bid into their base.
I'm getting prepared, just in case this merger results in having to execute a difficult decision. Hopefully they would offer long term leave as an alternative to a short term displacement. Making guesses on the numbers, in five years, this will not be a problem, but it could get pretty rough for the next three. Or it could be great. There just isn't much information to go on and big questions, like the fate of the 787, aren't known yet. |
I thought we were going to have NO fences?
-Fatty |
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
(Post 446717)
Are you sure? Then the displacement would never end. I'm preety sure that once you get displaced you bid what your seniority can hold but where the company has slots. Otherwise it would be never ending displacements or furloughs. Just a quess. Not sure myself.
The Delta contract allows a pilot who is displaced to go anywhere in the system where there is a pilot junior to him in that category. There is no requirement for there to be a opening. If they had that rule what would happen when a airline was shrinking and a senior captain got displaced. He would have no position to go to. Displacements occur most often when a airline is shrinking and the nature of that is that there are no openings. Here is the exact wording from the contract. 13. A pilot who holds an MD may displace a pilot in any category who is junior to him and who was in such category on the award date of his MD. MD=mandatory displacement |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 446757)
The Delta contract allows a pilot who is displaced to go anywhere in the system where there is a pilot junior to him in that category. There is no requirement for there to be a opening. If they had that rule what would happen when a airline was shrinking and a senior captain got displaced. He would have no position to go to. Displacements occur most often when a airline is shrinking and the nature of that is that there are no openings. Here is the exact wording from the contract.
13. A pilot who holds an MD may displace a pilot in any category who is junior to him and who was in such category on the award date of his MD. MD=mandatory displacement |
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