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Old 07-28-2008, 10:05 AM
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Well with this they will get their wide body CA seat. Nothing that you can do to change that. Even a fence will not stop it.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Well with this they will get their wide body CA seat. Nothing that you can do to change that. Even a fence will not stop it.
As they should. 1986 was a long time ago.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Well with this they will get their wide body CA seat. Nothing that you can do to change that. Even a fence will not stop it.
Heyas ACL,

Any GB guy who wants a WB seat can get it these days. The fences are long gone.

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Old 07-28-2008, 10:49 AM
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Heyas ACL,

Any GB guy who wants a WB seat can get it these days. The fences are long gone.

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So you're saying that if a senior Rebublic guy on the A320 wants to fly the whale, he can displace a more junior guy, or does he have to wait for the more junior, younger guy to leave before he gets the seat? The fences may be gone, but the damage is done if the only way to hold the seat is to wait for a younger guy to retire.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
So you're saying that if a senior Rebublic guy on the A320 wants to fly the whale, he can displace a more junior guy, or does he have to wait for the more junior, younger guy to leave before he gets the seat? The fences may be gone, but the damage is done if the only way to hold the seat is to wait for a younger guy to retire.
Heyas JDMJ,

Last time I checked, it's '08, and we're all Blue. If a position is available, then the SENIOR pilot gets it.

With that said, had the 787 been on time, it wouldn't have been called the "Greenliner" for nothing.

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Old 07-28-2008, 11:07 AM
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Heyas JDMJ,

Last time I checked, it's '08, and we're all Blue. If a position is available, then the SENIOR pilot gets it.


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I fully understand that, but when the position won't be available until after you retire, you are de facto fenced out. By merging, they are able to bid a huge amount of additional airframes. Plus, if Delta establishes an ATL category for the whales, then they get to bid in front of the current whale drivers.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:02 PM
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Any word on the August AE?
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:27 PM
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From some one in the know.

IF it is going to happen the number are this.
60 CA and FO ATL 777 positions. Backfill is still up in the air.
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:08 PM
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Heyas JDMJ,

Last time I checked, it's '08, and we're all Blue. If a position is available, then the SENIOR pilot gets it.

With that said, had the 787 been on time, it wouldn't have been called the "Greenliner" for nothing.

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Nu,
Well considering the 787 is coming after the merger it is irrelevant. I think JDMJ is correct. You guys may in fact be all blue, but what good is it if there are no "blue" seats to bid into? Its kind of a bummer to have 20 years of NWA screwed up seniority battles corrected on the backs of the Delta pilot group. And to further amplify the previous statement I mean that by the time the senior narrow body catains can successfully bid onto big equipment, they will be bidding on DAL aircraft against DAL pilots who did not benefit from the 20 years fences that screwed them.


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Old 08-07-2008, 09:16 PM
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There will be problems created because you have a bunch of senior pilots who are former Republic that are still narrowbody captains, while we have some very junior pilots who are holding widebody because no one wants to be on reserve. Those are the kind of issues that will be tough and need to be addressed, but in a nutshell I think relative position by equipment.

The Redbook/Greenbook/Bluebook died in 2006. Fences have long since been down. I find myself edumacating a number of the captains that I fly with on this. People at NWA hold what their seniority can hold now. Doesn't change the fact that the RB/GB guys still hate each other. It wouldn't be NWA if there weren't something to hate.
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