Originally Posted by forgot to bid

see, age 65 elimination > MPL... and simpler... and if you make it retroactive it solves a lot of shortage problems at the regionals. problem solved.

did i mention that doing that is also free?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

100% of the crazies that I know by name interviewed got the down. Meanwhile nothing but good guys have gotten the ok.

Originally Posted by dalad

We have a new Negotiating Committee Chairman. Good man for the job, IMO.

Originally Posted by Boomer

Eliminating age 65 would not solve the regional pilot shortage. On the contrary, many of us in our 30s/40s will look at the stagnation of the last 10 years and decide it's not worth sticking around if "paying our dues" means another ten years in the minor league.

A lot of us stuck it out by telling ourselves (and our families) "It's only five years and then the majors will be hiring again"

Many of us could replace our regional pay tomorrow, but haven't bailed because we still want a possible career at the majors. Take that away and watch a thousand regional pilots turn in their two-week notice.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Compass was a part of our MEC. The converse of your own statement is, "If you are a member of the Delta MEC then you are a Delta pilot, I don't know how else you could look at it."

An obversion which demonstrates the logical error of dividing us from members of our own MEC, regardless of how you characterize the f-NWA design.

Rather than trying to tie together the logical breaks in the line you use to define professional pilots as "barbarians" I suggest the method used to successfully civilize more barbarians than any other, annexation. When we learn to acquire and incorporate our fellow professionals in unity, our numbers, thus our power, grows.

Scope is a leading indicator for bargaining results. If we've learned nothing else out of the last two decades, when we are able to more broadly define who are Delta pilots, we win gains in pay and working conditions.

Originally Posted by scambo1

I cannot believe how (unbelievably) polar opposite we are on our scope beliefs. How, praytell, in the real world, would you advocate scope recapture...It can't involve a machinegun held waist high set to full auto.

Originally Posted by Dirtdiver

Perhaps DL is trying to prevent a repeat of the Northeast merger. They've all retired now, but for many of us here, we flew right seat for some of the worst ever "professional" pilots. You'd think after 25 years and 20K or so hours most would have figured it out, but they were about 50/50.

There's always gonna be a few percent you hire that are mistakes, but you have to accept that and move on. When you take on all comers someone else picked, your fear is you just hooked up with another Northeast.

Originally Posted by Free Mason

Sailing;

You appear to have contacts on the 4th floor, and if I recall have some at AMR. Go ask your AMR buddies who is going to be on their interview panels? Isn't there a APA pilot representative that takes a active part in the hiring process of the individual candidates?

Maybe DALPA is missing an opportunity here.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

ALPA says Delta Management would have never merged their subsidiaries. Some of my friends in management who are now long retired stated, well, that was the plan (at least in the early days).