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Old 04-01-2014 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
and yet, you fell hook, line, and sinker for management's/DALPA's sales job on C12, with us largely funding a massive RJ bailout.

so let's see...you don't give a rat's ass about the little stuff...until the company and/or DALPA tell you to. Great critical thinking skills.
Once again, the clue bird fails to land at purple's domicile. There was no "falling" for anything. My decision took most of that into account. I would vote yes again in a heartbeat. I don't like hopey changey. Doesn't usually work in any circumstances. Going forward, there is no reason to negotiate anything smaller than a 321.

Keep trying though.
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Now let's talk about domestic basing of foreign carriers...why exactly am I supposed to fight that? Is it because my company and union, the outsourcers of my job, tell me to?

Connect for me the best possible career dots for a new hire today. With the objective information you and I have today.
Insightful commentary right there.

Why should pilots follow ALPA's lead and write to our Congressman to oppose the foreign airlines that want to fly into the US when ALPA keeps signing all these JV agreements that outsource more flying to foreign airlines?

If they are going to have US bases, and you don't have to live in some despotic desert penal colony, it would seem that the better career choice might be to go to work for a foreign airline instead of an ALPA airline.
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Once again, the clue bird fails to land at purple's domicile. There was no "falling" for anything. My decision took most of that into account. I would vote yes again in a heartbeat. I don't like hopey changey. Doesn't usually work in any circumstances. Going forward, there is no reason to negotiate anything smaller than a 321.

Keep trying though.
I am not sure if I am missing sarcasm or something else. Are you saying you are willing to let scope give away anything up to the 321?
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:41 PM
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tsquare-
You went over 10,000 posts !!

Dude !!





But,
You need a new hobby.
There's more to life than sparring with me and Purple Drank.
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Insightful commentary right there.

Why should pilots follow ALPA's lead and write to our Congressman to oppose the foreign airlines that want to fly into the US when ALPA keeps signing all these JV agreements that outsource more flying to foreign airlines?

If they are going to have US bases, and you don't have to live in some despotic desert penal colony, it would seem that the better career choice might be to go to work for a foreign airline instead of an ALPA airline.
Do you seriously believe this?

I think you two are mixing problems a bit. There is outsourcing to partners, then there is the ME carriers. A country the size of North Dakota has 100-777s on order. They have the backing of serious oil money. That is quite different than Virgin Atlantic or British Airways or China Southern. Now granted, it is time to revisit our relationships with those carriers, especially if they are getting more of a lion's share of the JV flying. (I honestly do not know the numbers one way or the other). But it is time to look at it, and perhaps it should become an issue.

But to compare that relationship to fighting off NAI or M R Rats is a completely different thing. You think we have stagnation now? Wait until the sand fleas are in CONUS flying between NY and LA..... I would rather tell my mother I was a gay hooker than to tell her I fly for a middle east company, but that's just me....
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
tsquare-
You went over 10,000 posts !!

Dude !!





But,
You need a new hobby.
There's more to life than sparring with Purple Drank.
You are absolutely right sir.

Goodnight. And thanks for the pic.
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
If they are going to have US bases, and you don't have to live in some despotic desert penal colony, it would seem that the better career choice might be to go to work for a foreign airline instead of an ALPA airline.
+1000

If they start opening bases here with their pay scales then ALPA is worried about losing membership to them and that's why they don't like it and why they want you to write your congressmen.
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Do you seriously believe this?

I think you two are mixing problems a bit. There is outsourcing to partners, then there is the ME carriers. A country the size of North Dakota has 100-777s on order. They have the backing of serious oil money. That is quite different than Virgin Atlantic or British Airways or China Southern. Now granted, it is time to revisit our relationships with those carriers, especially if they are getting more of a lion's share of the JV flying. (I honestly do not know the numbers one way or the other). But it is time to look at it, and perhaps it should become an issue.

But to compare that relationship to fighting off NAI or M R Rats is a completely different thing. You think we have stagnation now? Wait until the sand fleas are in CONUS flying between NY and LA..... I would rather tell my mother I was a gay hooker than to tell her I fly for a middle east company, but that's just me....
Outsourcing is outsourcing...the rest is just prejudice.

I'm still a good long way from holding 777A at DAL. Yet, guys that were flying RJs 3 years ago are doing it right now. I'm not willing to go to the desert to do it, but seriously T...you US base those guys and DAL becomes a second tier choice.
Old 04-01-2014 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You are absolutely right sir.

Goodnight. And thanks for the pic.
You're still a mere newbie compared to ftb with 16,000+.

He still holds the trophy. (and peeks up at it)

Old 04-01-2014 | 05:14 PM
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My My, that was a....close shave!
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