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shiznit 04-03-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1615806)
edit: disregard

staying humble and tightening my backpack

Well played....:D

DelDah Capt 04-03-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by poostain (Post 1615784)
Tip of the hat to our fellow Delta aviators for a safe outcome:)

I have no doubt that they did a great job of putting the crippled plane safely on the deck, but when you read this part of the story:


The airline confirmed a hydraulic problem prompted the crew to divert to JFK Airport due to the longer runways available. While taxiing to the gate the aircraft exited a taxiway
You have to wonder if they pushed their luck a little too far and maybe should have called for a tug like we do in the simulator...they were already Gold Medal winnners for landing safely (Yes, I'm a Hall of Fame Monday Morning Quarterback)

TANSTAAFL 04-03-2014 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 1615759)
Good call to go to Kennedy vs. landing in LGA.

- Captain Obvious.

Seriously though, keeping people alive and Delta out of the news is why Delta pilots should be getting paid the big bucks.


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1615754)
The article said that they lost all of the hydraulic fluid. I think accumulators just provide the pressure but still need fluid in the system to work. You would think something like the brakes would have a separate accumulator powered system for just such an occasion. Hopefully a Mad-Dog Pilot will enlighten us.

Scoop

Wonder if they tried to stop with reverse thrust? With no brakes WGAS about reverse below 80kts? We used to do reverse thrust power backs from the gate in another lifetime.......

Ed Harley 04-03-2014 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1615611)
Incident: Delta MD88 at New York on Apr 2nd 2014, hydraulic failure and runway excursion

By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Apr 3rd 2014 11:26Z, last updated Thursday, Apr 3rd 2014 11:30Z
A Delta Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-88, registration N992DL performing flight DL-886 from Atlanta,GA to New York La Guardia,NY (USA) with 118 passengers and 5 crew, was descending towards New York when the crew reported a hydraulic failure and decided to divert to New York's JFK Airport requesting runway 31L (length 14,572 feet/4,442 meters). The crew indicated they had lost all hydraulics fluid, had no brakes whatsoever, the gear doors would be open due to manual gear extension and they had no nose gear steering. JFK Tower advised emergency services that runway 31L (runways 22 active) was reserved for the emergency and would be closed as soon as the aircraft landed, they were cleared to proceed to assist the aircraft as needed after landing. The aircraft touched down and slowed on the runway, the crew requested chocks repeatedly stating they had no brakes, both engines were shut down, fire brigades told the crew they would apply chocks as soon as the aircraft came to a stop. The aircraft went off the runway at low speed and came to a stop with all gear on soft ground.

The passengers disembarked normally via the rear stair of the aircraft and were bussed to the terminal.

The airline confirmed a hydraulic problem prompted the crew to divert to JFK Airport due to the longer runways available. While taxiing to the gate the aircraft exited a taxiway.

Delta (DL) #886 ? 02-Apr-2014 ? KATL - KLGA ? FlightAware

Metars:
KJFK 030251Z 00000KT 10SM SCT140 BKN250 05/03 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP191 T00500033 51002 $
KJFK 030151Z 00000KT 10SM BKN250 06/03 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP190 T00560033 $
KJFK 030051Z 00000KT 10SM BKN250 06/03 A3010 RMK AO2 SLP193 T00610033 $
KJFK 022351Z 19003KT 10SM BKN250 06/03 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP189 T00560033 10089 20056 53003 $
KJFK 022251Z 19005KT 10SM FEW080 BKN250 07/04 A3009 RMK AO2 SLP187 T00670039 $
KJFK 022151Z 21003KT 10SM SCT250 08/04 A3008 RMK AO2 SLP185 T00830044 $

Passenger Photo (Photo: Mark Albert):
Passenger Photo (Photo: Mark Albert)

Hmm. Just spitballing here but it would be extremely unlikely to have no hydraulics at all due to redundant systems. It is strange that they state the engines were shutdown. Not sure when they shut engine(s) down, but without Aux or Alternate pumps on, and engines shutdown, they wouldn't have any brake pressure.

casual observer 04-03-2014 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by DelDah Capt (Post 1615838)
I have no doubt that they did a great job of putting the crippled plane safely on the deck, but when you read this part of the story:



You have to wonder if they pushed their luck a little too far and maybe should have called for a tug like we do in the simulator...they were already Gold Medal winnners for landing safely (Yes, I'm a Hall of Fame Monday Morning Quarterback)

that's what I thought too, but I wasn't there.

Bucking Bar 04-03-2014 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1615679)
Never before has an aluminum vessel been required to hold so much hot air :)

Yes, but the Captain would not let me start the APU. :o

Bucking Bar 04-03-2014 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1615671)
What do you call it when you have three APC'ers on the same flight? Is it a flock of APC'ers, or a pride?

A conspiracy?

Fun?

tsquare 04-03-2014 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1615585)
Thx.
I read the contract and search it pretty often. But I constantly find myself asking...
How does that alan shore know so much?
;)

Some people are just good at remembering the nitnoid stuff in the contract. I am glad there are guys like that, I just wish they would PM me more gouge on how to sharpshoot the contract and fly less to get paid more.. :)

slowplay 04-03-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by DelDah Capt (Post 1615838)
I have no doubt that they did a great job of putting the crippled plane safely on the deck, but when you read this part of the story:



You have to wonder if they pushed their luck a little too far and maybe should have called for a tug like we do in the simulator...they were already Gold Medal winnners for landing safely (Yes, I'm a Hall of Fame Monday Morning Quarterback)

Are you guys really going to start speculating about what did and did not go wrong without knowing any facts? I think we can all agree that the crew must have done a great job as no one was hurt.

Kudos to the crew! Please leave the "analysis" to CNN and Faux News.

One of these stories called it a McDonald Douglas jet....

tsquare 04-03-2014 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1615795)
From DALPA:


Delta IT strikes again

It's DALPA's fault in a purple world, not doubt... oh wait, it is an incompetent Delta that is at fault. I really wish you would go work for IT since you obviously have all the answers.


You are amazing but keep it coming, at least it's amusing.


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