Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-16-2014, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
How could we go under? We're making $2 billion+ a year.
As long as the flying is not on the mainline list, it is at the mercy of the whipsaw game. It doesn't matter if you're wholly owned or not. It only matters that you can be leveraged ( or thrown away ALS comair). That is the primary value of the various DCI carriers. I have no ill will towards you or any other DCI pilots. However, anyone working for an outsourced carrier is only one chess move away from pain. We need to change that when the opportunity finally presents itself, as it appears it may soon.
04-16-2014, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
You might want to review your corporate structure...
Tell me again who owned Comair?
Tell me again who owned Comair?
04-16-2014, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Not saying that it is something about to happen right now.... but if this pilot shortage thing is real, management is going to have to increase costs in order to attract quality applicants. That will severely eat into that "profit?". And I highly doubt your profit line is $2 billion. (even if your revenue is $2 billion, your bottom line is no where near that) And even if it were, DAL would probably want to sever the pay for departure contracts, and keep THAT money in house to pay down more debt.
04-16-2014, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Which category? I tried a few and no dice. Seems like ours is usually one of the last to get loaded
If you're ATL88B, expect it, what's the deadline, the 17th? Then.
Everyone else, sometime before the ATL88B guys get theirs.
04-16-2014, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
330B was up. I chose a random one.
If you're ATL88B, expect it, what's the deadline, the 17th? Then.
Everyone else, sometime before the ATL88B guys get theirs.
If you're ATL88B, expect it, what's the deadline, the 17th? Then.
Everyone else, sometime before the ATL88B guys get theirs.
04-16-2014, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Not saying we should use any capital, but we better find away to eliminate the language that allows outsourcing.
Who knows, maybe someone will invent a "Mr. Fusion" for jet engines. Maybe cheap foreign pilots will become available to fly them. Maybe Sleepy Ed or another high-functioning sociopath will take over for RA and try to re-invent the outsourcing wheel.
Even if the company wants to bring DCI back to mainline, we've got to make sure they can't outsource it in the future. Put the genie back in the bottle!
Who knows, maybe someone will invent a "Mr. Fusion" for jet engines. Maybe cheap foreign pilots will become available to fly them. Maybe Sleepy Ed or another high-functioning sociopath will take over for RA and try to re-invent the outsourcing wheel.
Even if the company wants to bring DCI back to mainline, we've got to make sure they can't outsource it in the future. Put the genie back in the bottle!
Technical advancements could undo all of our assumptions and degrade our profession, same thing with misguided legislation to "fix" a pilot shortage. We have to be vigilant.
Here's the difference of pay rates:
American Eagle $104
ExpressJet $97
Republic $119
SkyWest $112
Air Wisconsin $101
GoJet $97
Horizon $114
Mesa $104
Pinnacle $87
Trans States $97
AVERAGE $103
Delta E195 $154.48
Delta E190/CRJ900 $131.42
I think it's still a significant gap to breach in C2015, and I think that the odds are better for us to have a TA before the bottom finally falls out of DCI. It surely will get hairy if I am mistaken.
04-16-2014, 08:33 AM
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I heard RA is really unhappy with how ExpressJet is run.
04-16-2014, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Mi casa es su casa.
Unfortunately, I think that's wishful thinking on your part.
04-16-2014, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Unfortunately, I think that's wishful thinking on your part.
04-16-2014, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Well, for at least as long as the bridge agreement exists.
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