qball

Only because it would steal sales from the Super Guppy.

capncrunch

Honest question, what's a coverage award?

I'm failing at PBS and trying to get a handle on it.

LivingTheDream

I think it's an unstacked trip. Which is why I try to leave enough trips "in the pot" to allow pbs to give me the best of my worst choices... trips, days off, etc.

index

Did management believe it to be "detrimental to the process" to intentionally abrogate our contract, DISCIPLINE (and yes, taking away pay from pilots IS a form of discipline) pilots by forcing a PD on them, and then making them do a carpet dance in the CPO? Hell no. They even told us they were going to violate our contract ahead of time. What have we done about other than "collect data"? NOTHING! And now we have apologists like you advocate that doing NOTHING is advancing the process. It's not! Wake up man!

If this isn't a shot across the bow I don't know what is. This is exactly what's wrong with DALPA. They, and their loyal followers---like YOU, continue to hamper our collective ability to make contractual gains. What exactly would be "detrimental" by FILING a grievance? Are they going to take our retirement away? Pay us less than they did 14 years ago? Take away crew meals--but continue to feed the F/A? A 7th short call?

As a side note, can you tell me the last time DALPA even filed a grievance? Do they even remember how?

I heard this morning that Obama warned Putin again, I think this was the 47th time. This time he means it.

Well, since you asked, you are well adept at repeating the DALPA drivel. As to your understanding of how negotiations work, you are CLUELESS.

index

Absolutely!

index

That is a good idea, but something that should've been engineered by the MEC and ready to go on January 1. SD's memo came out on December 6, 2013. There was more than enough time to put a plan together. Instead, the MEC has done NOTHING. They had a chance to show leadership on this issue but they're paralyzed in fear that management won't like them anymore if they file a grievance. Pathetic I say.

Denny Crane

I've thought about this and initially have agreed with the sentiment expressed here. I have changed my mind. It seems like the company has been dragging it's feet in these 117 negotiations. I think it's high time some more pressure was/is applied in the form of a group grievance. Isn't this just another negotiating tactic? Seems like the company has been stalling long enough and there has been enough of a chance to come to a deal and yet we are still negotiating? No, this is not something we want dragged out for the rest of the year. The 117 negotiations need to be resolved with a agreement or not. Then we need to move on. I think filing the grievance will cause the situation to be resolved sooner rather than later.

Denny

Check Essential

Thank you for speaking out Denny.
Its much harder for the DALPA guys to just dismiss your views the way they do with Purple and the rest of us well known agitators.

When DALPA sees that they are losing credibility even among the "moderates" in our pilot group then maybe they will finally take some action.

These 117 "negotiations" are an embarrassment. Management unilaterally rewrites our contract and then just stiff-arms the union in endless negotiations and we do nothing about it. Looking weak and helpless is not a very good way for Donatelli to start his administration.

Management is playing DALPA like a violin. Pull out of these sham negotiations and file the grievance.

orvil

I've been sitting voluntary reserve for the last couple of months. In my experience, the Company has done nothing to violate the contract. The trips I have been assigned have been assigned while I am on short call. They put me on rest after the assignment to make me legal. It's crickets while I am on long call.

While SD may have issued an obnoxious memo, he doesn't seem to be following it up with action. I think most of the violations took place in the first month of 117.

Understand, I am waiting for them to violate my contract. They haven't. If they want to give me a day off, cover the trip with a green slip and call me in for a carpet dance, so be it. I'm happy to take one for the team. Until they do it, there is nothing for me to grieve.

Check Essential

orvil-
You are correct. If you haven't had any long call assignments then you are not one of the affected pilots.
Its the long call rules that have been changed via memo.