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Old 05-08-2014, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That's fine.. The company can pay mainline rates for them too. non-negotiable imho.
I think we should pay by the seat / speed / productivity matrix we have always tried to negotiate. By that standard you and I are currently underpaid and need to be brought up. Do I have a second?

Another consideration is we need to get flying on the property. Once we own the market, then we price the market.

Both considerations benefit you and are in perfect alignment with each other, as well as long standing labor practice.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bucking bar
by that standard you and i are currently underpaid and need to be brought up. Do i have a second?
....SECONDED....
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
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Another consideration is we need to get flying on the property. Once we own the market, then we price the market.

Both considerations benefit you and are in perfect alignment with each other, as well as long standing labor practice.
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I agree about getting this flying back, however I am not willing to spend any capitol to do it. The regionals are not able to fill interview slots let alone classes if this continues this problem will be self correcting.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
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I agree about getting this flying back, however I am not willing to spend any capitol to do it. The regionals are not able to fill interview slots let alone classes if this continues this problem will be self correcting.
...Seconded...

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Old 05-08-2014, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Or in other words, what flying position does my Delta experience entitle me to in the Navy, over a current Navy pilot?
what in the world does that have to do with anything whatsoever?
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
They should both interview for the mainline job.
With all due respect to my fellow flamingo, the CPZ guys all interviewed for a job at NWA to get that job at CPZ. That was the basis under which the flow up was constructed.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
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I agree about getting this flying back, however I am not willing to spend any capitol to do it. The regionals are not able to fill interview slots let alone classes if this continues this problem will be self correcting.
We have hundreds of apps on file at 9E, they are people who a regional won't even hire.....YET. Imagine deadheading, or worse, putting your family on a plane with pilots worse than Marvin Renslow.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
the CPZ guys all interviewed for a job at NWA to get that job at CPZ. That was the basis under which the flow up was constructed.
The part I underlined is not entirely true. The Compass guys interviewed at Compass, for a job at Compass, and then an eventual flow-through to NWA.

NWA actually hired ~190 of their own pilots in '07/'08, at the same time that the Compass pilots were interviewing and being hired by their own respective interview/HR team. (There was a retired NWA Captain on the hiring board of Compass interviews.)

Another tidbit of useless information. The Compass certificate is the old ACA/Independence Air certificate, used by NWA to start the Compass "brand" after Indy Air's demise of trying to be a LCC with 50-seat RJ's.

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Old 05-08-2014, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
You must not be counting LAX as a hub. We have two choices very expensive and even more expensive. And oh yeah - if you want Coffee in the morning you are rarely more than number 50 in line.

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Pricey yes, but the food at Ford's is excellent.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
what in the world does that have to do with anything whatsoever?
As relevant as any other "entitlement." The point of the comment was that entitlements do not matter.

The only time perceived entitlements matter is if they benefit us (unity) or management (flow through).
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