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Guys,
What is the best way to ship a bike? I have it all boxed up and received a $130 quote from FDX with the discount but when I got to the FDX store the actual price was $220.
Delta cargo says employees receive a 90% discount - anyone ever use this option? Pros/cons?
How about shipping it as oversize baggage when non-reving?
Thanks - Scoop
What is the best way to ship a bike? I have it all boxed up and received a $130 quote from FDX with the discount but when I got to the FDX store the actual price was $220.
Delta cargo says employees receive a 90% discount - anyone ever use this option? Pros/cons?
How about shipping it as oversize baggage when non-reving?
Thanks - Scoop
I've used the discount but I think it only applies at certain FedEx locations. I think I drove down to FedEx at LAX and they gave it to me there. It's been awhile though.
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It is remarkable that a "union" with significant financial resources and legal counsel at its disposal has permitted as much squishy, loophole-ridden language as ALPA has.
Whatever the country's best contract attorney costs, it's a bargain compared to the money and time we've whizzed away with unenforceable or inadequate contract wording.
My question for ALPA:
Are you:
a) wasting our money on substandard legal advice
or
b) ignoring advice from your attorneys in order to give the company an "out?"
I'm not sure which is worse.
Guys,
What is the best way to ship a bike? I have it all boxed up and received a $130 quote from FDX with the discount but when I got to the FDX store the actual price was $220.
Delta cargo says employees receive a 90% discount - anyone ever use this option? Pros/cons?
How about shipping it as oversize baggage when non-reving?
Thanks - Scoop
What is the best way to ship a bike? I have it all boxed up and received a $130 quote from FDX with the discount but when I got to the FDX store the actual price was $220.
Delta cargo says employees receive a 90% discount - anyone ever use this option? Pros/cons?
How about shipping it as oversize baggage when non-reving?
Thanks - Scoop
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Guys,
What is the best way to ship a bike? I have it all boxed up and received a $130 quote from FDX with the discount but when I got to the FDX store the actual price was $220.
Delta cargo says employees receive a 90% discount - anyone ever use this option? Pros/cons?
How about shipping it as oversize baggage when non-reving?
Thanks - Scoop
What is the best way to ship a bike? I have it all boxed up and received a $130 quote from FDX with the discount but when I got to the FDX store the actual price was $220.
Delta cargo says employees receive a 90% discount - anyone ever use this option? Pros/cons?
How about shipping it as oversize baggage when non-reving?
Thanks - Scoop
Nope. I want more money. I have been clear about that. I want health care. I don't give a damn about RJs. And I don't give a damn about feel good mission statements and goal statements. It's too early for that. It's meaningless except to placate you and Jerry. Get the troops fired up now, and they'll burn out. Guaranteed.
You want 34% or something like that. It would be great, but it is not remotely reasonable (standing by for the expectations management crap). It is reality. We are not going to get a contract that will deliver that kind of pay increase before somebody else closes the gap.
That's been the conventional wisdom. It's definitely DALPA's position. But I don't think it really flies. We are some of the higher paid employees at this company. And there are a lot of us (~12,000?). So our cost to Delta adds up to a big, impressive number. But in the grand scheme of things, as impressive of a number as that is, it's relatively small. At the end of last year, I added up my total cost (including profit sharing, company 401k contributions, etc.) and divided by the number of passengers I estimate I carried. My cost was $2.98 per passenger. A 50% increase to that would be $1.49... about the cost of a large soft drink at McDonald's. Based on that (and the fact that there is more than just me up there), let's say the average cost per passenger for a 50% pay increase for us would be $3.50. (I'm attempting to account for the fact that bigger equipment pays more and international flights have more pilots.) The airlines invented $25 bag fees out of thin air and have no problem collecting them. You don't think they could find a way to net an additional $3.50 per passenger (through increased revenue, decreasing costs in another area, or some combination of both)??
Of course, if they aren't faced with the prospect of having to do that, then they certainly aren't going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. That's where effective, appropriate representation that's not afraid to advocate for what's right comes into play.
And then there's TVM. PD wants to wait. He ignores the magic of compounding. He will throw you and me under the bus. (and himself also, but he can't do math, so he doesn't realize it) You are a smart guy when it comes to investing, and it totally surprises me that you seem willing to discount it also, but apparently the victory of punching management is more valuable to you. Reasonableness is what will get us our money. How to define that is the crux of the problem.
And nobody (certainly not me) is discounting the time value of money. How about the time value of 10 years of draconian pay cuts and loss of significant benefits like the pension? Now there's some serious time value of money!
Time value of money is one of the big reasons why we need to set a high bar with our objective and begin pursuing it aggressively.
The point is that you cannot restore an "unreasonable" cut with a "reasonable" increase. The math just doesn't work that way and you know it. Again, either you are FOR significantly increasing our pay (like you say you are) or you are not. You can't have it both ways.
No, I don't.
And even I am tired of this discussion. I'm never going to change your mind and you're never going to change mine. Hopefully, some of the lurkers and the less partisan folks reading here have benefited one way or the other from this discussion.
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Might need to explain to the clerk that you need Delta's employee discount, and are not looking to ship on Delta's corporate account. Also need to waive the signature for delivery.
Deets on Deltanet/Employee Info/Delta Perks. "FedEx" in search bar. Really an excellent discount...overnight for not much more than USPS priority mail.
Last edited by Purple Drank; 07-22-2014 at 03:59 PM.
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Don't think so. We get it at our local Fedex/Kinkos all the time, but As someone else posted it's 75% off on 1 or 2 day air only.
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