I always advise people that life is too short and you can't get the time back. Greenslips are just not worth it.

I tell them that in the hopes the greenslips will get to my seniority.

$10,000 to miss trick or treating? Please. For $10,000 I'd dress up like Mr. Monopoly and pelt my kids with Mars Bars and Kandy Korn on my way to the airport.

Nobody on their death beds wishes they had more time to trick or treat. They want more booze, chicks and rock music. That takes money and the best way to get that money is greenslips.

 

What airline is DS on our non-rev list and how do they qualify for S2 passes? I thought S2's were were only for active DAL employees and their direct families?

Scoop

 

I thought it was just straight pay on the new trip and pay for the second. So you're double paid, in a sense, for going to work but not triple paid. Let me go look, could be wrong.

 

hilarious...love it!

 

LOL. Dat's funny right there!

 

Can we have some discussion about what you guys think of the Nov bidpacks? With 5:15 ADG in place, some significant changes to CARMN programming for our trips took place to ensure low credit for Delta. Wondering how things look in the other cats?

For 73N, I'm seeing a LOT of 8:45 days on the last day of 3 days, and a lot of 3 legs on first and last days via 1.5hr turns.

I'm ALSO seeing the standard trickiness of Delta in meeting the letter of the law while helping themselves... I see a LOT of "2 day" trips reporting at 0003 and finishing at 23:59, for 10:30 pay. Essentially a 4 day trip for 53% of the airline (commuters).

Lastly, I'm seeing a lot of longer legs combined together that we never used to do, such as MSP > ATL > LAX/SLC , for 8:30ish block, but with 0600 takeoffs and 2-3 hour sits in the turn airport. Even JFK>LAS>SLC/LAX/SEA which used to have 41 min turns now have 3 hour sits in LAS.

None of the trips my bid filtering for commutable make me ANY more $$ than they used to do, but it looks like I'll be working a lot harder now for that 5:15 ADG we "won". Not a fan of the initial bidpack results.

 

Could be unintended consequences of the ADG, the company still learning to work with the ADG, or the company increasing the suck factor in order to encourage trades like SDP's (for example) in the next contract, or a combination thereof.

I don't think the company has a vested interest in making part 117 favorable to us as we start to negotiate.

 

Our trips (LAX) are basically the same crappy trips we always get but the previously very inefficient trips generally pay a lot better.

FWIW we have a bunch of trips that sign in at 23:55 and also some three day red-eye sign-in trips with two legs that pay 15:45.

Scoop

 

My fNWA 320 CA said he was a 89 hire and his pension was frozen at his DC-10 FO rate..should be around 5k a month. Not throwing stones, but that's a lot of beer money!

 

I'm in the same category as you - the Capt and I were talking about this on our last trip.

There are limited trips at DL that would benefit from the 5:15 going into effect. So now in order for the 5:15 to work for the company there is going to be more working. If we are sitting in a hotel on a long layover, we are going to "earn" it through working harder the other days of the trip.

I suppose we will get one or two more days off a month as we'll fill up faster, but it's not free money. We are just earning it in a different way. Now we all want efficiency - I think the complaint with 30 hour layover is that people would prefer to have that sit at home rather than on the road somewhere.