Originally Posted by alfaromeo

Well gee, Carl, as someone who actually risked my life in defense of our country, as opposed to spouting baloney,

Originally Posted by scambo1

So Alfa, which is it, occupied Palestine or Israel?

Originally Posted by alfaromeo

Well that's easy, the Israelis have all the guns so it's their land. The Israelis have the same rights to that land as the Shawnee Indians have the rights to the land I own. I have the guns on my side also so it's still my house. You can be damn sure that if the Chinese gave money and guns to the Shawnee so they could come take my land and force me to live in a tent in some other country, it would be a cold day in hell before I quit trying to get home. That is the other side of the coin and that is how many Palestinians view their situation; the Israelis have better lobbyists in the US Congress so they get the land.

Originally Posted by Raging white

Easy Ace, you're not the only one who risked you're life for your country. Doesn't make you any smarter, or more credible. Lots of us were in real fights, in real wars, and think your point of view is just plain wrong. Careful about taking credit for something based on "risking your life".

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Don't sell yourself short. You've spouted plenty of baloney.

Am I the only one uncomfortable having someone with alfaromeo's fringe leftism wield the amount of influence he apparently does over "our" "union" (and thus, our careers)?

p.s. alfaromeo...playing the "risked life for country" card here with so many veterans participating is pretty tacky.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Don't sell yourself short. You've spouted plenty of baloney.

Am I the only one uncomfortable having someone with alfaromeo's fringe leftism wield the amount of influence he apparently does over "our" "union" (and thus, our careers)?

p.s. alfaromeo...playing the "risked life for country" card here with so many veterans participating is pretty tacky.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo

Well gee, Carl, as someone who actually risked my life in defense of our country, as opposed to spouting baloney, I appreciate your lesson on patriotism.

You are so blinded by your ideological BS that you can't even appreciate the subtle irony of history. From the British perspective, the colonists were terrorists and traitors to the crown. From the colonists perspective, they were patriots freeing themselves of oppression.

Menachem Begin planned and ordered the bombing of the King David Hotel. General Curtis LeMay said himself that if the U.S. lost World War II he would have been tried as a war criminal for his fire bombing of Japanese cities.

They both won their wars and so they are heroes and not terrorists. The colonists won so George Washington is the father of our country and not a traitor to the British army. He came to fame serving as a Major in the British army in the French and Indian wars. He was rewarded by the crown with large swaths of what is now Ohio. From their viewpoint he was a traitor.

I guess I can try to spell it out more clearly for you. Your view of history depends upon where you sit. I know you are so wrapped up in ideological BS that you view the world through a soda straw. Open your mind and you will see there is whole big world out there; not just the little tidbits that cute blonde woman read to you from a teleprompter. (why are they all blonde ?)

Oh, and Carl I got my college education at the Air Force Academy, a known hotbed of left wing radicalism.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo

I got my college education at the Air Force Academy, a known hotbed of left wing radicalism.