Originally Posted by Delta1067

It will all be ok. According to Timbo you just live where you want and commute to such schedules.

Originally Posted by MikeF16

I've got the number, thanks.

In the meantime, wasn't there a feature that would estimate how many lines could be built out of the available flying? I looked at the estimated PBS Line Count document which (I hope) didn't make sense. At the top it shows Projected Number of REG line holders (13). When I scrolled down there was a 2 column chart titled "REGS", the number here (39) wasn't the same as from the top chart -- any insight what that 2 column chart represents?

As a complete noob observation, it appeared there was way too much flying in the bid package for only 13 lines. I looked at 717 for NYC and there were a total of 105 trips for an average of 3.09 days each. For simplicity/worst case I assumed min credit of 5:15 per day, then multiplied by the average trip length of 3.09 then multiplied by trips of 105. I divided by ALV of 73 and came up with 23 lines of flying. Realistically some guys will help fill their schedule with vacation, and some of those days will give more than min credit which should mean more than 23 lines of flying. Is my math wrong or was the February estimate from the Bid Packages and Awards page incorrect?

Originally Posted by gloopy

Depends on the trips. A high credit commutable (both ends) 5 day can be a good deal. A 25ish hour 5 day with one or both ends not commutable is a POS trip all day long.

Originally Posted by nwa757

Here at AA. Deal is crap. We don't get profit sharing like you guys and the TA has major holes in it which include:

-no min calendar day credit (just per duty period) we have 11 hour 3 days
-A321 pay is at A320 rate even though it carries same pax as 757. New A321neo will be able to do Europe at narrow body rates.
-5 YEARS duration which puts us well into 2020+ before a contract that doesn't have bk work rules.

Originally Posted by Timbo

I haven't looked too closely at the 717 in NY, but it might be that there are not enough guys trained on it yet, thus the low line counts?

Originally Posted by MikeF16

That is a true statement; however, the flying presented in the bid package is far more than the 13 lines stated in the estimated regular lines document. I'll ask that question while I'm asking questions about what might be a nonapplicable bid .

Originally Posted by Scoop

Wow the February bid packages have been out for hours and no complaints about additional domestic categories that have 5 day trips.

FWIW - For LAX 73N there are more than I thought, and they pay from about 27-31 hours. Not too bad for a commuter.

Once I get the DA quirk fixed I can perform a more in depth analysis.

Scoop

Originally Posted by Timbo

You could do that, and there are a few other ways too. What you really need to do is call the experts, on the PBS Help Line. They can walk you through it, while you are logged on to Navtech. They can tell you exactly what and how to bid. Do you need the ph. number? It's the same as when calling crew scheds, just listen to all the Scheduling menu options.

Originally Posted by nwa757

Here at AA. Deal is crap. We don't get profit sharing like you guys and the TA has major holes in it which include:

-no min calendar day credit (just per duty period) we have 11 hour 3 days
-A321 pay is at A320 rate even though it carries same pax as 757. New A321neo will be able to do Europe at narrow body rates.
-5 YEARS duration which puts us well into 2020+ before a contract that doesn't have bk work rules.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

I think you will find the A321 NEO is not much of a transatlantic aircraft. Airbus is however working on a longer range version that won't be out until 2019 or later. It will have the range of the 757 if operated off long runways.