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Old 10-15-2014 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I would venture that it is a very safe bet that if an Ebola infected person gets on an international flight, the chance that everyone on that flight is infected is almost a given. Iow, 100%.
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.
Old 10-15-2014 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I would venture that it is a very safe bet that if an Ebola infected person gets on an international flight, the chance that everyone on that flight is infected is almost a given. Iow, 100%.
I came into F concourse a few mornings ago from Dubai. The Joburg flight was right behind us. As I went through customs and immigration I took a long look around but I didn't see ANYBODY with a thermometer laser gun (like in NRT) checking temperatures or anything else.

I did see the puppy sniffing bags though, I wonder if he can sniff out Ebola?

Are we still flying the Lagos trip?

WHY?
Old 10-15-2014 | 06:15 AM
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Ebola sniffing puppy wouldn't last too long.
Old 10-15-2014 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.
IMO, they should have shut off travel to the affected areas almost immediately. Some say that doing so would increase the spread, I disagree. The state department can move "trained" personel and scientists around via military assets and therefore spend more time screening a smaller percentage of the population. Keeping unrestricted travel to and from these areas, after considering the incubation period, is foolish. It has more to do with protecting the stock market ahead of Novemember mid-term elections although that cat is already out of the bag and compounding. For the innocent observer, notice how fast ABC, MSN, CNN and CBS have changed their perception of the market. Local media is special interest based, owned by large corporations and cater to their owners' best interests. If you need the real scoop stick to the few outlets that are not heavidly biased left or right (Fox is ridiculous). Look into NPR, Al Jazeera and sometimes the Guardian. Snowden picked his outlets because he knew FOX and CNN would never bite the hand that feeds them. Getting back on target here...

Eric Duncan checked into a hospital September 25th, it is now three weeks later and another healthcare worker has finally shown symptoms and been appropriately diagnosed. Think she went out to eat, home, grocery store, pumped her own gas? Sneezed? You get the idea. And check multiple sources, ebola has been proven to spread via aerosol among non-human primates. The CDC will simply state is had not been known to transmit via airborne methods among humans. It is SHOCKING Timbo states that no one even had a thermometer in customs and at the same time not all those people would be symptomatic. You get the idea.

13 states are not reporting ebola cases at all.
Old 10-15-2014 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.
Agree to disagree.

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Old 10-15-2014 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.
Agree to disagree about the risk to everyone on the plane.

No question about the disease cluster scenario though (in a small picture way). The big picture is everything the sick person touches can infect every other person that touches it. Then all those people touch something else, etc.
Old 10-15-2014 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
Look into NPR, Al Jazeera and sometimes the Guardian.
Good points, but seriously, NPR? As a listener to this station I can tell you they know the hand that feeds them.
Old 10-15-2014 | 07:26 AM
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Good points, but seriously, NPR? As a listener to this station I can tell you they know the hand that feeds them.
Yeah, you are probably right. Liberalism can sneak up on you! To many cross country flights bouncing between NPR and alien encounters on the old AM radio (pre-XM) or NDB. It's sad they took a side I guess one must in an order to survive. Always seems like the dumb side wins.
Old 10-15-2014 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
I've been thinking recently that flying for the new Delta - a domestic narrowbody airline - will have its perks:
- Less time zone recovery between trips
- Still a good mix of airplanes (single fleet type might get boring)
- Profits will only go up as the high paying WB jobs go to our code share / JV partners (well, that one is only good for mgt and shareholders...maybe we should go to longevity based pay?)
- As we do less and less intl on DL metal, mgt will hopefully gift us with some nonrev agreements (similar to the new Virgin Atlantic one) that will allow us to still travel internationally at reduced rates.
- Lots of people don't want to do those 18-hour leg, 9-day months anyhow
- Don't have to worry about currency conversion or power adapters
- More legs per day is more landing practice!
- Short domestic trips will allow commuters to practice their commute more often, so they'll get better at it.
Good thing bigger pays more, right?
Old 10-15-2014 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Ebola sniffing puppy wouldn't last too long.
In Korea or...

Oh...I get it!
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