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Old 01-09-2015, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Elvis View Post
During my midphase CPO newhire meeting, the CP went through the ratings and comments with me. No names attached, just the raw grades and comments grouped by grading area.

I don't know what else happens to the comments unless there's an issue that needs to be addressed, but I appreciated reading them though personally I think most Capts are reluctant to be critical.

Some examples from mine:

"Of all the new first officers I've flown with, he is definitely one of them."
"Shows up to most flights. Often on time."
"Amazing customer engagement. Ensured they were kept informed by responding to radio calls on the PA."
You flew with comedians.

I never had mine reviewed. Of course I don't recall a meeting with the CPO either, I guess I got lost in the mix.
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
You flew with comedians.

I never had mine reviewed. Of course I don't recall a meeting with the CPO either, I guess I got lost in the mix.
I think this is a new process. With the huge hiring going on this time, I believe they're trying to put some sort of more organized quality control system in place to identify potential problems before probation is up.

I've slipped through that screen by ordering extra nametags with the names of the pilots in my class with higher SSNs. So far, I've jumped seven seniority numbers!
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Old 01-09-2015, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
Recently flew with a guy who freely admitted to being "as critical as possible" on his probation critiques. His reasoning was that, by being as critical as possible, he was giving the company the best opportunity to evaluate it's new hires.

Then again, he also felt the need to coach me through every descent and approach for 4 days despite the fact that I have twice the amount of time on the Mad-Dog that he does....

Hopefully there's a vetting process of some sort for these critiques.
I was told they can see each CA's overall average. If there is a bad report they check how he grades overall. Make sure you wear shoes and socks to work. Socks alone will hurt your evaluation!
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Old 01-09-2015, 04:11 AM
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Can I just attach a picture to the NH probation form?

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Old 01-09-2015, 04:29 AM
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I was told they can see each CA's overall average. If there is a bad report they check how he grades overall. Make sure you wear shoes and socks to work. Socks alone will hurt your evaluation!
Know of a guy who got below average on all the ratings then in the comments section the Captain wrote "just kidding"
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Old 01-09-2015, 04:42 AM
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I was told they can see each CA's overall average. If there is a bad report they check how he grades overall. Make sure you wear shoes and socks to work. Socks alone will hurt your evaluation!
A captain once told me of an FO or FE he had that was walking down the concourse in just black socks. No shoes.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
I never had mine reviewed. Of course I don't recall a meeting with the CPO either, I guess I got lost in the mix.
No review yet? Maybe you're still on probation.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:46 AM
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A captain once told me of an FO or FE he had that was walking down the concourse in just black socks. No shoes.

Actually a LAX Guy (could have been a FE or FO) got fired in the 90's for showing up and attempting to fly a whole rotation with no shoes. True story, although I may be off a little on some of the details. This is one of the base "Folklore" stories that we are told in LAX - along with the CAPT that threw the TV out of the window and, the Female CAPT that someone called security on because they thought she was a hooker in the crew room.

He said something like he was sitting SC and on the beach and his stuff got stolen. Shows up with no shoes. CAPT says - I will do the Walk-arounds today, stay in the cockpit and tonight on layover get a new pair.

Shows up day 2. No shoes. CAPT says what happened. FO//FE guy says I didn't have enough money to buy shoes. They repeat the same drill on day 2 but this time the CAPT lends the guys money to buy shoes.

Shows up day 3 with no shoes. CAPT has enough. All Pilots report to CPO after trip. Guy gets fired. I don't know if this guy actually had mental issues or some shoe phobia but this is a true story.

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Old 01-09-2015, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy View Post
I once asked my LEC lead where DALPA's goals were listed. He said the goals were the survey. Immediate facepalm.
I understand why he facepalm'd. Kind of a lame question.

The goals are in the mission statement, and the areas where specific improvements are being sought are addressed in the survey.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
Actually a LAX Guy (could have been a FE or FO) got fired in the 90's for showing up and attempting to fly a whole rotation with no shoes. True story, although I may be off a little on some of the details. Tis is one of the base "Folklore" stories that we are told in LAX - along with the CAPT that threw the TV out of the window and, the Female CAPT that someone called security on because they thought she was a hooker in the crew room.

He said something like he was sitting SC and on the beach and his stuff got stolen. Shows up with no shoes. CAPT says - I will do the Walk-arounds today, stay in the cockpit and tonight on layover get a new pair.

Shows up day 2. No shoes. CAPT says what happened. FO//FE guy says I didn't have enough money to buy shoes. They repeat the same drill on day 2 but this time the CAPT lends the guys money to buy shoes.

Shows up day 3 with no shoes. CAPT has enough. All Pilots report to CPO after trip. Guy gets fired. I don't know if this guy actually had mental issues or some shoe phobia but this is a true story.

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He must have worn shoes to his interview...I wonder where those went??
I heard another story about a guy who would wear black denim jeans to work. I don't think he got fired, but had to buy real pants.
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