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01-09-2015, 07:44 PM

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DARR31

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Originally Posted by Charlie17guy

So...How are the hotels in Brisbane? Better yet, who will be brave enough to PS home during their 48-hour weekend =)

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Why would you, Brisbane rocks!

01-09-2015, 08:48 PM

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Why not? 9E was sending pilots to Copenhagen Denmark for CRJ training.

01-09-2015, 09:13 PM

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Question. ATL 717 A has 10% fewer pilots than ATL717B but more than twice as many vacation weeks. Why the disparity? Why not more vacation weeks on the B side?

01-09-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Question. ATL 717 A has 10% fewer pilots than ATL717B but more than twice as many vacation weeks. Why the disparity? Why not more vacation weeks on the B side?

More senior = more weeks of vacation. I went from 4 weeks last year to 5 weeks this year!

01-09-2015, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Question. ATL 717 A has 10% fewer pilots than ATL717B but more than twice as many vacation weeks. Why the disparity? Why not more vacation weeks on the B side?

You kid right?

01-10-2015, 04:23 AM

#175506

Karnak

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

I see what you did there. While it's cute it is illustrative of the attitude and defensiveness that arises when our union finds itself critiqued in any fashion.

ALPA is fair game for criticism! Our union is responsible for explaining its methods, and seeking improvement as the industry evolves and changes.

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That said, I feel you need the dots connected: Outstanding and respected organizations set goals and objectives and measure themselves by how well they meet them. RA sets goals for the company--very specific numbers. Very objective goals.

Bad comparison. RA doesn't have a rank-and-file and is only accountable to people (shareholders) who are, for the most part, not connected to the enterprise he's running. He doesn't work under the terms he negotiates. He doesn't send his deals out to the "membership" to ratify.

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DALPA sets subjective goals which allows them to declare success since there's nothing specific to be measured by. As for the dot connecting: To claim to have specific and objective goals to be measured, and then to cite the survey is laughable---since the survey results are kept secret.

I dont' think ALPA sets subjective goals. I think ALPA sets collective goals. There is a big difference! The priorities of all of us are surveyed, analyzed, and negotiated. Your priorities in any specific of the contract are probably different than mine. If ALPA set the specific objectives of attaining mine - which don't match yours - it could cause problems.

I think the MEC wants C2015 to be successfully ratified. To do that, they have to deliver a deal that meets most of the objectives of most of us.

01-10-2015, 04:43 AM

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Question. ATL 717 A has 10% fewer pilots than ATL717B but more than twice as many vacation weeks. Why the disparity? Why not more vacation weeks on the B side?

How many weeks vacation does a 2014 hire have to bid. Average less than 1? Being a lot of 2014 hires are on the 717, not much vacation required.

01-10-2015, 04:51 AM

#175508

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Is there anyway to see who got awarded what vacation weeks? I'm 60% in category and couldn't hold off any week from end of May through end of July & I'm curious how senior those weeks went. Thanks!

01-10-2015, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Schwanker

How many weeks vacation does a 2014 hire have to bid. Average less than 1? Being a lot of 2014 hires are on the 717, not much vacation required.

Exactly. Which is my point. They could have more weeks available to bid and evidently not have a staffing issue if you look at the A side. Instead on the B side wiped almost everything out in the primary bid. Why not have more weeks?

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