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Old 10-19-2014 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
I'm not talking about "holding." That "pick" or "rub" route is done by every team almost all the time. Technically its illegal but its rarely enforced. Except of course at Doak, on 4th down, with 10 seconds left in the 4th. Thats my point.
Watching the Dolphins - Bears game. It's NFL, but I just saw the same type of penalty called.
Old 10-19-2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Why worry about it? When the truth about Winston and Dumbo Fisher comes out, the NC and all those wins will be forfeited anyway. 2000 autographs on items with consecutive serial numbers? YGTBSM
Cam and Auburn still have their awards, don't they?
Old 10-19-2014 | 10:42 AM
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A bit of an odd question but one that Id like addressed. Are guys from PSA really being "blacklisted"? People are saying Delta recruiters arent hiring any PSA guys.
Old 10-19-2014 | 11:00 AM
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PSA rumor silly on the surface of it.
Delta has hired GoJets to do our DCI flying for cripes sake! Proof positive they don't blacklist...
Delta recruiters don't "blacklist" anyone based on an organization they worked for, everyone that applies has their stuff racked and stacked and rated per standard rules.

If PSA guys aren't getting hired, it's because none of them has racked and stacked above OTHER guys that ARE. Also, remember there weren't very many "off the street" slots for the last year--Pinnacle, Compass etc. flow throughs or guaranteed interviews have consumed a large portion of available jobs that MIGHT have made it to RJ qual guys in general.

I've got buddies with 20 years in USAF, multiple RTU and aircraft, tons of time and combat time and command of various operations, spotless records, who haven't been called for an interview either...

Thanks for the post though! Was glad to finally read something that didn't have to do with college football and what level of cheating or scumbaginess should be acceptable there.
Old 10-19-2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
PSA rumor silly on the surface of it.
Delta has hired GoJets to do our DCI flying for cripes sake! Proof positive they don't blacklist...
Delta recruiters don't "blacklist" anyone based on an organization they worked for, everyone that applies has their stuff racked and stacked and rated per standard rules.

If PSA guys aren't getting hired, it's because none of them has racked and stacked above OTHER guys that ARE. Also, remember there weren't very many "off the street" slots for the last year--Pinnacle, Compass etc. flow throughs or guaranteed interviews have consumed a large portion of available jobs that MIGHT have made it to RJ qual guys in general.

I've got buddies with 20 years in USAF, multiple RTU and aircraft, tons of time and combat time and command of various operations, spotless records, who haven't been called for an interview either...

Thanks for the post though! Was glad to finally read something that didn't have to do with college football and what level of cheating or scumbaginess should be acceptable there.
Thanks for the reply, this is exactly the answer I was looking for. Im likely making a lateral move to PSA and am trying to play out any and all future consequences in my head no matter how far fetched they may seem. Seeing as Delta is my #1 choice I dont want to do anything that might hinder my chances. Thanks.
Old 10-19-2014 | 11:25 AM
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Exactly. Industry-related politics are forbidden. But college football is somehow fair game.
Old 10-19-2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Cam and Auburn still have their awards, don't they?
There are no NCAA rules against tithing. His father is a preacher and that's a huge loophole. I put in a high bid on his father's church for a huge remodeling job. That included the roof, windows, doors, gutters, and some siding. When I saw the chuch I figured there was no way the money was there. It wasn't until Iafter I got the rejection letter because my bid was too high that I found out who the Pastor was. Out of curiosity I drove by about 6 months later and you wouldn't have recognized the place. There are loopholes.
Old 10-19-2014 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
Sounds to me as though that's exactly what happened. Marketing wanted to add another 2,500 hours to the schedule and Flight Ops said, "No can do." If there was mathematically no way to add that much time to the schedule without violating the staffing formula with its ALV/TLV restrictions, would we have been happier if Delta had scheduled the hours anyway?
My point is FltOps should be more involved in the planning process earlier on so they could see things like this coming.

Waiting to hear what marketing may want to do, and only finding out after its too late to be able to do it, is in no one's best interest. If FltOps had more say and involvement, we may have been able to head that little debacle off at the pass and tell the tail wagging the dog that we needed to hire sooner/more and we could have done that flying and gotten that revenue.
Old 10-19-2014 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
I think SARS cost the U.S. travel industry 7 billion and there were zero cases in the U.S.

Ebola is pretty fresh. We've had a guy die and several U.S. contractions. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

Silver lining: Better non-reving and cheaper hotels.
I don't think its going to have that much of a long term effect unless we completely fail to enact reasonable measures for screening etc.

If someone in the US has it and can spread it, the uninfected are no less likely to get it from a grocery store, movie theatre or ball game as they are from an airplane.
Old 10-19-2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Cam and Auburn still have their awards, don't they?
Hey, they did not let Cam keep the laptop!
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